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We all know automakers want to keep tabs on their cars. Stolen vehicle tracking? Sure. Fleet management? Fine. Microphone eavesdropping to serve more ads? Hate it, but OK, that’s a thing. Hold onto your tin-foil hats: Ford just filed a patent for something that takes vehicle tracking into full-blown Twilight Zone territory. Always-On Tracking… In Your Car, or Somebody Else’s.

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[–] SPRUNT@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (8 children)

If you're aiming towards fully autonomous vehicles, having the vehicles know precisely where they are, as well as the knowing where the vehicles around them are, is key to avoiding accidents as well as for more efficient traffic flow.

Not saying the aren't privacy concerns and all that goes along with it. Just pointing out that there are some legitimate cases that rely on the same technology backbone.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Right, there are legitimate cases for this. The argument, though, is that these companies are not to be trusted.

I bought a new Toyota recently, and know from others that their app has some car tracking built in to it, where once you connect the app to the car you can see info on trips and gas mileage and such. When I bought mine, though, I carefully read all the T&Cs, and specifically declined the one that said it would sell my driving data to third parties. Guess what? I don't see that historical data. A minor inconvenience, but it lets you know who they consider their real customers to be.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm amazed you could decline it and still get any functionality. Every app or website I have seen goes all or nothing.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There were, like, six or seven different agreements, I read them all and only declined the most egregious ones, that explicitly said they would share my data with third parties without limit. I understand they need an agreement to cover basic data sharing between me and them, but I will not consent to having them immediately send the data to my insurance agent (or the government).

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Very reasonable.

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