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But we have to deal with them. They are a superpower, a rival to the USA. I'm not saying we should believe what they say, but analyse why they are saying it. We cannot just ignore them as Europeans.
We have to discuss everything, but there should be no content posted from any extremist right-wing (or left-wing) sources, no propaganda outlets, let alone if the governments behind actively threaten European security. China is the same unreliable and authoritarian dictatorship we have seen already before this Florida man took over across the Herring Pond. Such a source should not be posted imo.
It's one of the few English speaking sources from China. That fact alone makes it already clear that it is a propaganda outlet mostly aimed at foreigners, but if you are aware of that, it can be a legitimate source to see how the Chinese government wants to spin a certain topic in the eyes of a foreign audience.
China's Global Times is an English-language propaganda outlet in English. The Chinese Communist Party's news agency Xinhua publishes in English (as well as in German, French, and many other languages). And then there are many propaganda outlets in English and other languages in the world.
Sometimes these are openly influenced by China. The Chinese government has been spending billions of dollars (in the single-digit billions, if I recall correctly) over the last decade or so to establish a network of such propaganda outlets all across the globe (publishing news in English and other local languages), all of them collaborating with the so-called "International Communication Centers" inside China for fine-tuning Chinese anti-democratic narratives.
Other propaganda outlets are hiding their connections to the Chinese Communist Party, the recent most prominent example likely being "NewsBreak", that was once (or still is?) the most downloaded US news app, and in 2024 turned out to be of Chinese origin, and spreading AI generated 'fiction' and Beijing's propaganda.
Your statement is absolutely baseless and even downright naive if it comes from a moderator dealing with such content.
[Edit for clarity.]
Well, there is a huge difference between an officially state run news agency, a genuine Chinese source like the newspaper linked above (obviously not independent), and covert propaganda efforts.
Not seeing that difference is naive and group-think to ban anything with a relationship to a foreign govermment also doesn't help.
And anyways, this kind of propaganda is among the least worse, as it is pretty obvious and doesn't hide its intentions.