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I gave up red meat, it's not that hard. Honestly, I'm hoping the market will take this opportunity to come up with more decent vegan alternatives. I'd like to give meat up altogether but the products that are out there currently are pricier than red meat, ffs.
This is one reason why I stepped back from veganism after like 6 years and into ovo-lacto.
The cheese alternatives, especially. You're paying top-dollar for a sub-par product made by the same Big Food conglomerates. Why give them more money for a worse product. The money still ends up in the same dirty hands, and IMO cheese is way harder to give up than meat or "other dairy". Other dairy products have come a very, very long way.
Also fate wound me up with 9 hens and I can't pass up them eggs.
Dairy, by nature of stress-spoiling, is relatively cruelty-free. That is to say, the profit motive is harmed unless you make the cow feel stress-free. So I've never seen how milk, butter, and cheese are not vegan. We make cows happy and get good milk in return, in excess of what the calf needs. Seems like a good trade for an animal that cannot survive without humans.
Blatant industry lying propaganda horseshit. The meat industry is rife with cruelty, to pretend otherwise is straight up dishonest.
There’s states where the industry even managed to get filming in a factory farm made illegal because they know just how unpleasant the entire operation is.
Your argument essentially boils down to "some animals can take more abuse than others before their bodies break down, therefore if you only eat the more fragile ones it's relatively less cruel, so go ahead and enjoy".