Socialism is great as a concept, basically means putting people before capital. Capitalism is the reverse. Even the staunchest capitalist countries practice socialism to some degree. Raw capitalism would be hell.

It’s the same with communism, where the workers were supposed to own the means of production, which means money wouldn’t gravitate around a few ones. Even the staunchest communist countries didn’t practice real communism, deforming it into feudalism.

TL;DR: Socialism is a great concept, just consider that everything we hear about it comes from a culture ruled by capitalists.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world -3 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Socialism is great as a concept, basically means putting people before capital. Capitalism is the reverse.

That's not even slightly true, but human nature makes it end up being that way. We're real good at coming up with isms incompatible with our nature, so they never work as planned, often with irony too.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

genuinely what does that even mean? can you try rephrasing that?

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

As a species we have evolved with certain traits. These traits are the reason we are the top.species. Try as we may, with society, we cannot just blink these traits away,; no living thing can evolve that fast.

So whenever someone comes up with a great idea of how things could be in society, they often ignore our species' traits of ruthless ambition, persistent survival, tribalistic loyalty, etc. It is like when people get border collies thinking they'll be great pets, but then realise their true nature and how much work and.effort has to be put into them every day to get.the most.out of them.

Idiots think we're somehow different and beyond the other animals, but we're not. How society is today is exactly how we are. If someone wants to change it, they need to factor human nature, else it won't work.

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