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[–] mspencer712@programming.dev 38 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (36 children)

I tried to support this artist on Patreon. Heard there were NSFW comics there. Well, yes, but mostly a creepy OnlyFans-esque collection of nearly nude sexy photos of the artist, with frequent calls for payment for explicit nudes.

(Edit from below, as I figure out what I’m trying to say) It’s a sort of emotional bait and switch. “Come support me, there’s nsfw comics.” “Ooh I love those, my wife loves those, I’m in.” “Whoops, actually there’s also these risqué photos. Maybe your wife will be ok with it, maybe not. You can choose to have the conversation if you want. But now I’ve handed you a problem, unless you want to just immediately unsubscribe. In which case I still keep the money but you get nothing. Thanks for your support!” (End of edit)

Only artist Patreon I’ve ever unsubscribed from for content reasons. (I’m married, intended to support an artist, not to gawk at an OnlyFans.) From what I can tell from kemono (Patreon content mirror - visit with Adblock on), she’s still doing it.

I’m genuinely not sure if I’m being too sensitive or if this is genuinely behavior that shouldn’t be supported. Comics like this one are really good. I’m torn.

[–] hmmm@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Most of the comics artist do NSFW on Patreon. It's nothing too crazy. I guess. Like top of artist on r/comics make NSFW comics on Patreon.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I think you misunderstood, this was pictures of the artist naked, not erotic art.

Which is definitely not something most artists do.

[–] hmmm@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

Oh didn't know that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I don't want to see most internet artists naked. If she's pretty and talented, then more power to her.

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't know anything about this particular artist, but nude photography is super normal in the art world at large? I'm confused as to what makes nude photography 'not art' to you.

[–] Carrot@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It seems like you might be purposely missing the point, which wouldn't be a very cool thing for you to do, but I'll treat it as though you are genuinely confused.

Nobody here is arguing that nude photography isn't art. Nobody is arguing that the artist shouldn't be able to make money selling that content as art. The point is that outside of patreon, there's no sign of nude photography. Only once I support the artist on patreon do I see their nude photography. It should be clear what I will receive from the creator when I support them on patreon, and here it isn't clear, I was given something I didn't ask for. I understand I can just skip over it, but there are a bunch of reasons why I wouldn't want NSFW stuff mixed in with my normal content feed, such as browsing at work or on the train. Plus, with a partner, if they see that and think that I am paying for someone's only fans (or equivalent) it's a difficult discussion to have. Sure, it will hopefully all end up being fine in the end with an understanding partner, but still, it's not something I would have signed up for had I known.

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 week ago

I'm sorry, I think you meant to respond to another person. I was talking about Ilovethebomb statement of "this was pictures of the artist naked, not erotic art", and wanting clarification on where that line is drawn in their mind.

Nobody here is arguing that the artist shouldn’t be able to make money selling that content as art.

I was 13 when mom graduated with a degree in fine art, so maybe I've just seen it more, but there are tons of people who think nude = porn and porn =/= art. I'm not saying you think like this, because I've never talked to you before, but the sentiment is super common in western culture at large.

[–] Cypher@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

There is a difference between nsfw drawings and nudes of the actual artist

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