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[–] HowRu68@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

And Merz and Scholz got their 2/3 majorities via concession of 100 B for environmental measures for the Greens.

DW called it humorously, " a Defence Package with a Green Stamp".

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 4 points 22 hours ago (7 children)
[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

For 4 years.

The next government will be beholden to the debt brake again - and if the CDU happens to be in the opposition, they will block any and all investment to make the governing parties look worse.

Although I expect the AfD to form a blocking minority for constitutional amendments anyway. Maybe we'll get the first CDU + AfD government by 2029 - wouldn't be the first time that German conservatives allow nazis to rise to power.

[–] ClassifiedPancake@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Why would this only last 4 years? It’s a constitution change. It does not magically undo itself after a certain time.

[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

The budget, I mean.

In four years, I suspect nearly all money will be allocated and either the next government manages to make another constitutional amendment or they will lack founding again.

500 billion is not a lot for 30 years of infrastructure decay.

[–] ClassifiedPancake@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Yes but the next budget can then be done by a simple 51% majority which is the regular coalition. This dept brake change needed a 2/3 vote and lays the foundation for easier budgets in the future.

[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Are you sure? From everything I read, there is only a 500 billion credit for infrastructure and an exception for defense spending above 1%.

If the 500 billion credit is largely spent and/or designated by 2029, the next government may not be able to pass a budget without a lot of cuts. Especially because retirement spending will explode by then, taking away money from everything else.

[–] ClassifiedPancake@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

You are right, the off-budget fund (Sondervermögen) for infrastructure also needed a 2/3 vote. I was under the impression that the 500 billion credit and how it will be spend was just part of the negotiations for the dept brake reform. My bad.

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