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[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 3 days ago (23 children)

The issue I have with non-credit card purchases is who owns the fraud transactions. For that reason alone, I don't like the idea of giving any site full banking information, especially given the sheer amount of data exfiltration that takes place on a regular basis.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (9 children)

A lot of European countries have direct bank transactions streamlined, you scan a QR code and fraud is owned by the bank.

It's ecen more secure than cards, since you can't get double charged by the vendor.

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 days ago (4 children)

What Americans tend to refer to as "fraud protection" is charge back policies, where the payment processor acts as Content Police and revert transactions if they hear the vendor was unfair to their customer (and they usually are on the side of the customer).

My EU bank won't do that even on my credit card, because it's insane that one would expect a financial institution to be judge, jury, and executioner in the case of a disagreement over legal services rendered.

Americans have to own up to the uncomfortable fact that dependence on these policies is what keeps the big credit cars companies in power, on top of severely driving up consumer prices (unfairly weighted towards the rich of course who get cashbacks thanks to the obscene money Visa makes on their enormous transaction fees) and being incredibly unfair to small vendors who don't have the means to meaningfully dispute fraudulent chargebacks.

[–] TotalCourage007@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I'm cool with going around the system if it has become corrupt by enforcing censorship. We need a way for CryptoCurrency to become standard.

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