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[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 19 points 1 day ago (7 children)

What OpenAI is doing is not piracy.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Whatever it is, it isn't theft

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 15 points 23 hours ago (5 children)

Also true. It’s scraping.

In the words of Cory Doctorow:

Web-scraping is good, actually.

Scraping against the wishes of the scraped is good, actually.

Scraping when the scrapee suffers as a result of your scraping is good, actually.

Scraping to train machine-learning models is good, actually.

Scraping to violate the public’s privacy is bad, actually.

Scraping to alienate creative workers’ labor is bad, actually.

We absolutely can have the benefits of scraping without letting AI companies destroy our jobs and our privacy. We just have to stop letting them define the debate.

[–] grumuk@lemmy.ml 3 points 16 hours ago

Molly White also wrote about this in the context of open access on the web and people being concerned about how their works are being used.

“Wait, not like that”: Free and open access in the age of generative AI

The same thing happened again with the explosion of generative AI companies training models on CC-licensed works, and some were disappointed to see the group take the stance that, not only do CC licenses not prohibit AI training wholesale, AI training should be considered non-infringing by default from a copyright perspective.

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