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[–] F_OFF_Reddit@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (42 children)

Nah communism is shit, same with trickle down economics... you can have a bit of capitalism and a bit of socialism in a healthy mix of free trade economy with regulations.

Like we do in Europe, because if you do not regulate the free market it'll stop being free in a generation. Like it's happened in the US.

[–] withabeard@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Needs v wants

Needs: healthcare, utilities, public transport, even a minimal but quality food source. Even to the point of utilitarian but working phones/devices. State ownership where profits are minimal but go back into the state. The services aren't necessarily free, but are run without massive shareholder payouts.

Wants: upgrades and luxuries. iPhones, treat foods, nice cars, silk bedding and those ridiculous marshmallow shoes everyone loves. Regulated but free market.

Now all your basic needs are covered by the community together. You could probably live a simple life with very little income. If you want luxury or fancy, feel free to work too get it.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today -1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I have been trying to put together a document that attempt this concept of ensuring the survival of people, while making money into something used for lifestyle upgrades. Also, heavy emphasis on wealth limits and preferring people over corporations. IMO, corporations are great for personal interests, but are beyond terrible when it comes to the wellbeing of people. Thus, we should make having a job optional, but rewarding.

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 21 hours ago

Trying to design a Utopia by fiat has historically failed, just look at the Owenites. The great advancement with Marx was studying societal development and mastering it, so that we can work it into our favor, not by designing systems in a lab that may have no bearing in reality.

[–] Liberal_Ghost@lemmy.zip 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Yo, how do you have lumberjack in the same tier as astronauts ? One goes to space, and other is a guy in flannel swinging ax in the woods lol

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

High injury and fatality rates. An astronaut risks their life everytime they ride an occaisional rocket, but a lumberjack has to deal with falling trees on a daily basis.

[–] Liberal_Ghost@lemmy.zip 2 points 12 hours ago

Ok, I see where you are going with that. I don't personally agree, but I see where you are coning from

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