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[–] TomMasz@lemmy.world 136 points 1 day ago (20 children)

His presidency will be remembered not for what he did, which was mostly good, but for what he did not do. His legacy will be viewed similarly to Hoover's. Both were principled men who, when faced with a serious problem, could not find it in themselves to deal with it.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

Dear god, Hoover was a monster and a criminal. He is known in particular for how unprincipled he was. From casually violating human rights at a national scale to targeting civil rights leaders, to blackmail and terrorism, he established the playbook that modern totalitarians like Trump continue to abuse today.

Using Hoover and Biden in the same breath, let alone calling a monster like Hoover “principled” is beyond the pale.

Edit: Ignore this rant. I was thinking J Edgar Hoover, notorious leader of the BOI/FBI, not former president Herbert Hoover who was absolutely a forgettable milquetoast president like Biden. Though Biden didn’t murder and tear-gas our own unemployed veterans, so he does have that going for him.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was so confused until I got to the edit.

[–] Auntievenim@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It still kinda made sense if you knew about the Palmer raids and the first red scare, however, I doubt anybody has ever been taught about those things in the US lol

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 18 hours ago

Yeah Hoover was pretty bad... We had literal shanty towns all over the place that people called "Hoovervilles"

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