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[–] mienshao@lemmy.world 132 points 1 day ago (25 children)

I fucking love that he chose to call them stalinists. In addition to it being true, it send a fuck you to the alt-right and the alt-left (who love to talk up stalin as of late)

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 15 points 1 day ago (15 children)

Who in the alt left is talking about Stalin lol maybe some whackos online

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 16 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

From someone who has gone to more than a few political protests and rallies in Boston:

Every fucking time Socialist Alternative shows up, it’s fine until some edgelord dipshit unfurls the fucking huge Soviet flag with Stalin and Mao silk screened on it. It’s like they’re trying to alienate reasonable people as well as historically-informed people. I consider myself a staunch socialist. I also outright detest Stalin and Mao because they were fucking authoritarian despots who wrapped their regimes in “communism” banners.

Sure, some of the systems at lower levels were socialistic, but at the end of the day, it was all in service to the cult of personality in charge of the whole gig. And yes, that’s what the US has devolved into (and arguably had done so quite a while ago, just not so overtly), but that doesn’t excuse Stalin or Mao, nor does it justify being an apologist for them.

[–] solarvector@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 17 hours ago

From that perspective, any thoughts on Ho Chi Minh?

Of all the leaders good, bad, and, ugly over the last century, he doesn't seem to be brought up as much by propaganda machines.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 3 points 17 hours ago

Why is it always Mao or Stalin? Can't they at least go with folks who shed the blood of fascists like Tito or Castro? They werent particularly good either but at least they were doing the best with their dealt decks. Mind you I fucking loathe elevating folks to positions of respect unless they were my ancestors or damned well earned it via death and glory.

[–] Kickforce@lemmy.wtf 1 points 3 hours ago

Oh man, a thousand times this, fucking tankies are a pain and a ball and chain on the leg of progress.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 16 hours ago

I also outright detest Stalin and Mao because they were fucking authoritarian despots

You could easily say the same of Washington or Eisenhower or Churchill or DeGualle.

Hell, Lincoln got got by a guy who was literally shouting "Sic Semper Tyrantus".

The thing that sets Stalin and Mao apart from the Francos and Mussolinis and Tojos and Chang Kai-Sheks and Churchills was their break from the old line aristocracy. The thing westerners hate more than anything was their overthrow of the local monarchies.

That's why you have folks weeping big crocodile tears over Anastasia and Puyi, while they whistle past the graveyard of the countless Chinese and Russian victims of Romanov/Qing Dynasty misrule.

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