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[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (4 children)

It's an unfair comparison. A pensioner is someone that by definition already contributed the most they could to the economy. As experience has it, plenty of pensioners continue to work even after retirement.

We have seen experiments with ubi and they almost unanimously conclude that it's a net positive, people tend to find work that both they actually want to work in and have the most skill on. It improves work conditions overall as well. Instead of settling for worse conditions or unfit positions.

Happy people are more efficient and productive. That's a no brainer.

[–] frostbiker@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

A pensioner is someone that by definition already contributed the most they could to the economy

Not really. There are plenty of healthy early retirees. Do they on average contribute more or less than before they retired?

As experience has it, plenty of pensioners continue to work even after retirement.

What percentage? How does that compare to what they did before?

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Any early retiree is most likely a billionaire, so by definition they weren't even contributing that much to begin with, probably just hoarding generational riches.

[–] frostbiker@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Any early retiree is most likely a billionaire

My kid's teacher retired at 55. So you think she was a billionaire?

so by definition they weren’t even contributing that much to begin with, probably just hoarding generational riches.

So rich people don't contribute to society because they don't have to work in order to live. However, people under a UBI will be very productive because they don't have to work in order to live?

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I'm not engaging anymore, you don't want to learn, you're just constructing weird gotchas for outrage.