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[–] bulwark@lemmy.world 206 points 13 hours ago (10 children)

"So it's sort of like when we fed cows with cows and got mad cow disease." is an amazing analogy for the current state of LLMs.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 minutes ago

Oh theses cows went wobbly, fell over and died, better feed them to our good stock to save money.

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[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 27 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Please be a nice bubble and pop soon, AI.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Stupid question: if you think it's a good idea but don't know when the price will go up, you just buy stock and wait. But if you think it's a bad idea and don't know when the price will go down, is there any long-term alternative to shorting that doesn't require betting on the date?

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

That's a good question I dont have an answer to. Maybe there are ways to short where you can just hold, but I dont know how. Maybe there's a way to borrow lots of RAM and GPUs, sell them, then buy them back when the price drops and sell them for cheap back to whom you borrowed. But I dont know who would make that deal.

[–] TotallyHuman@lemmy.ca 1 points 51 minutes ago

You can hold a short position by repeatedly borrowing more stock -- but you run the risk of running out of money completely, because short positions have (theoretically) infinite downside risk.

[–] TotallyHuman@lemmy.ca 3 points 53 minutes ago

If you imagine it like making a bet, nobody's going to take a bet with you where they pay you when it pops, but there's no time after which you pay them -- because they'd never get any money out of that bet. Buying stock is different because it's a thing you can own, but you can't invest in the idea of something failing, because there isn't any business which will take your money and make something more likely to fail.

You could buy every stock except AI-related stocks, which I believe is functionally equivalent to buying an index fund and shorting AI stocks based on the percentage of AI stocks in the index fund. You could also think about what businesses would do well (or less poorly) in the case of an AI-instigated crash, and then buy those.

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 19 points 6 hours ago (5 children)
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[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 13 hours ago (22 children)
[–] jonne@infosec.pub 81 points 13 hours ago (8 children)

He left rockstar after red dead redemption II, partly because he was tired of dealing with those execs.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 18 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Tired of dealing with greed-flated, not fully rounded humans? I can relate.

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[–] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 9 points 1 hour ago

Everyone's talking about the mad cow part, but this is also a really excellent point:

"Some of these people trying to define the future of humanity, creativity, or whatever it is using AI, are not the most humane or creative people. So they're sort of saying, 'We're better at being human than you are.' It's obviously not true."

[–] havocpants@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

While I like it as a simile, we didn't feed cows to cows - we fed them sheep infected with scrapie, at least that's the theory of how mad cow disease started. I say "we", I wasn't involved in the process, I just live here.

[–] OshaqHennessey@midwest.social 12 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Mad cow disease is caused by prions from dead cow brains infecting the healthy brains of living cows. It's kind of the cow equivalent of Kuru.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 hours ago

Those prions can also infect humans leading to Creutzfeld Jacob syndrome. Prions can also come from wild deer species and infect through venison.

[–] greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I thought it wasn't just any prions, but specific prions that replicate out of control after some time, depending on genetics. So cows were fed unclean bone meal from sheep and pigs and cows all mixed together, and they think some scrapie infected sheep spine/brain got in there and it spread to cows. Then it spread from there because we didn't think cows could get it and even if they could we were pretty certain humans couldn't get it. But we were wrong.

[–] OshaqHennessey@midwest.social 4 points 5 hours ago

Yeah, pretty sure you're right. Though I'll admit I've forgotten much more than I know on the topic.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

There is a natural incidence of prions in cows of one in a million, but we have herds this big now.

[–] greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

There's natural incidence of prion disease in humans as well. I'm definitely not an expert and just remembering a video I watched a week or two ago. That the prions from different sources act differently.

Video I watched: Mad cow disease Also watched this one

[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 hours ago

i’m still convinced the only reason they’re pushing it so hard is to invalidate their Kompromat….
we’re already at the point where people don’t believe videos they don’t like.

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