So we're at the "I didn't do it, but if I did then it isn't so bad" stage.
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That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal. <- We are here
And if it is, that's not my fault. <- Or maybe here
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it. <- And I'm pretty sure they used this one already
They literally just say all of them every time.
Yes, that’s how the chain of command works. The person at the top is still responsible, though.
Isn’t everyone involved responsible for illegal military actions?
Yep
Right. Pete and/or T.
Can't wait for pro-life SCOTUS to justify extrajudicial killing of shipwrecked civilians
They don’t need to when there’s no one to hold them accountable.
There's no possible scenario where this was "lawful". This was illegal in every conceivable way, and every single soldier involved knew it was illegal, but still followed that order.
It's the exact example given in DOD guidebooks of a clearly and unquestionably unlawful order.
Lets see if the Admiral is willing to keep hold of the live grenade that Hegseth pulled the pin on before he walked away, or the Admiral starts talking about the orders he received from Hegseth.
He’s burned either way. Following illegal orders is still illegal. You are responsible for your actions, even if those actions were ordered by higher ups.
Sure, but is he willing to go down by himself when he's just been thrown under the bus?
Who had “Cowards in Trump Administration Throwing Admiral Under The Bus” on their orange moron bingo for today?