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[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 29 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

So we're at the "I didn't do it, but if I did then it isn't so bad" stage.

[–] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 18 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

That didn't happen.

And if it did, it wasn't that bad.

And if it was, that's not a big deal. <- We are here

And if it is, that's not my fault. <- Or maybe here

And if it was, I didn't mean it.

And if I did, you deserved it. <- And I'm pretty sure they used this one already

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 10 points 8 hours ago

They literally just say all of them every time.

[–] watson@lemmy.world 24 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Yes, that’s how the chain of command works. The person at the top is still responsible, though.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 10 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Isn’t everyone involved responsible for illegal military actions?

[–] watson@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago
[–] santa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Right. Pete and/or T.

[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 21 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Can't wait for pro-life SCOTUS to justify extrajudicial killing of shipwrecked civilians

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

They don’t need to when there’s no one to hold them accountable.

[–] vegeta@lemmy.world 16 points 10 hours ago

Remember that admiral that retired early? Pepperidge Farm remembers

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 15 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

There's no possible scenario where this was "lawful". This was illegal in every conceivable way, and every single soldier involved knew it was illegal, but still followed that order.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 hours ago

It's the exact example given in DOD guidebooks of a clearly and unquestionably unlawful order.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Lets see if the Admiral is willing to keep hold of the live grenade that Hegseth pulled the pin on before he walked away, or the Admiral starts talking about the orders he received from Hegseth.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

He’s burned either way. Following illegal orders is still illegal. You are responsible for your actions, even if those actions were ordered by higher ups.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

Sure, but is he willing to go down by himself when he's just been thrown under the bus?

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

Who had “Cowards in Trump Administration Throwing Admiral Under The Bus” on their orange moron bingo for today?