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Here we are, Black Friday, officially Christmastime now. America is in a sour mood. Grocery prices are up, and so are energy prices. Donald Trump lies incessantly about both. The American people are onto him. They’re pessimistic about the future.

The distrust goes way beyond the economy. Over these last few weeks, ever since the government shutdown, it’s finally begun to sink in on people that Trump and his entire administration are a bunch of raging ideologues or incompetents or both, peddling a fantasy version of their strength that people no longer buy. There’s no longer any doubt about it: The MAGA crack-up has begun.

Look at a few things that have happened in just the last week: https://newrepublic.com/article/203744/there-no-doubt-it-great-maga-crack-up-begun-trump

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[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 55 points 9 hours ago

X for doubt.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 52 points 9 hours ago

If they refuse to vote for anyone but a Republican or to stop demonizing Democrats and Independents, them momentarily admitting water is wet is completely useless.

[–] Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 36 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I've lost count of how many times I've read headlines like this.

I'll believe it when my MAGA relatives turn their backs on Fox News and Trump. Until then, this is weapons grade hopium.

[–] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 9 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe you should read more than the headlines. There's some pretty good evidentiary detail in this one.

[–] Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 14 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I read it and I'm still not convinced. I've lived with these MAGA types for decades. I'd been forced to be around Fox News and right wing pundit rhetoric for decades. The media they consume are not reporting any of Trump's or his wider administrations shortfalls. Even on the very, very rare occasions that they do, the MAGAs smugly declare that Fox News is owned by Chinese communists and stop watching for like a week (one of my relatives actually said/did this immediately after Jan 6).

And from what I've gathered from the breathless Facebook posts of these people within the last week, everything involving Epstein and Trump is a hoax. New York City is reaching Portland-levels of imaginary death and destruction because of the new mayor. And the dismissal of the case against James Comey and Letitia James was unconstitutional, somehow.

I'm not trying to be pessimistic or cynical. I'm just going off what has happened in the past and what I'm seeing them saying and doing right now. Some of these people are too far gone to accept that they might have made many, many wrong decisions, and they will continue to blame Democrats for their self-inflicted suffering.

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 21 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

The cult has to die first and we all know what has to happen for cults to die out.

[–] NegentropicBoy@lemmy.world 13 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Their leaders need to be laughed at.

[–] dumbass@piefed.social 9 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

The leader needs to die.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 4 points 8 hours ago

This is what the Majority Report is for

[–] Inucune@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

Should I invest in flavor-aid, or will Trump shill his own product?

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 15 points 8 hours ago

We've been seeing headlines like this daily since before his first election

[–] flamiera@kbin.melroy.org 9 points 8 hours ago

"Keep lying...TO OWN THE LIBS!"

Do these journalists or authors forget what the entire MAGA mantra is?

Anything and everything to "own the libs".

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago

Heard that before.

[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 hours ago

The thing is, everything has gone exactly right and to plan for Trump and his cronies. All he meant to accomplish was making himself billions, making his family and friends billions, and keeping himself out of jail. Ten months into his term, he has accomplished that. He may even get the remaining 3+ years to continue the grift. Anyone who seriously expected different, is insane.

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

Sure this time....ahh well, nevertheless.

[–] velindora@lemmy.cafe 3 points 4 hours ago

Don't speak 
I know just what you're sayin' 
So please stop explainin' 
Don't tell me 'cause it hurts

[–] not_me@piefed.social 3 points 18 minutes ago

Release Luigi Mangione and the Epstein files,