And nor should they, never give in to bullies.
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Russia's showing signs of desperation anyhow which is why they're trying to push through an agreement. They can't debase the currency much further, they don't have the reserves or the GDP. Ukraine is in more the position strength here as they've spend their time building alliances which has been aided by Russian actions strengthening the resolve of Europeans.
US here, and I wish we were one of those allies. You know, as we promised.
- In 1994, the United States, Russia, and Ukraine signed the Trilateral Statement, under which Ukraine committed to eliminate all nuclear weapons on its territory and join the NPT, in exchange for economic support and security assurances from the United States and Russia.
Yeah, would have been nice if the word (signature in fact!) of us government had meant anything (we knew russia never lives up to it)
Unfortunately, this is just a stark lesson for any other country out there. Do not give up your nuclear weapons no matter what “guarantees” you get.
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Ah yes, but with Trump bending over backwards to accommodate Putin the Russians needn't worry.
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Thanks for the archived link. 👍
If they give up land now, it gives Pootin permission to do it again and take even more land. Eventually they'll take all of the Ukraine.
Also, remember when dumpy mcshitpants said he'd have both wars over in the first 24 hours of office? how long has it been now?
I don't know how much it would encourage Putin to invade again.
It's not like he invaded part of Ukraine and was allowed to keep the annexed territory in the name of peace, then 8 years later invaded again, right?
That's exactly how they ended up in a situation. Putin took Crimea with basically no resistance. He just didn't count on Zelensky. Most other leaders would have given in to the pressure and let Putin overrun Ukraine (for a nice golden parachute).
Yeah, historically Ukrainian corruption while not as bad as in Russia was just as pervasive and Putin didn't really think Zelensky or any Ukrainian leadership would act on principles. Of course, it's an easy mistake to make when you have no principles and surround yourself with people who have no principles.
That same orange shit stain is days away from de facto declaring war on Venezuela. Disgusting.
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Don't give up a single meter of land
Require reparations from Russia
Demand all children back
Demand a formal apology for the pain and suffering caused
Demand Putin in jail through the ICC
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It's not simply a bad political decision to give up territory it's illogical as well.
The fact that Russia is even engaging in a war with Ukraine indicates that they are duplicitous since they agreed not to attack Ukraine in order to get Ukraine to give up its nuclear weapons.
Any deal with Russia will be violated as soon as it suits Russia to violate it. Giving up a territory for peace simply gives Russia the opportunity to rebuild their forces, as soon as those forces are rebuilt they will violate the peace treaty. Again.
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Because if they did, EVERY SINGLE country that wants to invade another, including Russia, will know that if they just wait a year everyone will forget about the sovereign land they stole...
Russia will come back and take it all, don't give them an edge. Trump will be on TV whining how Ukraine rejected his really good peace offering.
When ever Trump is upset I'm a happy person.
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Good! Fuck Russia! Fuck Putin! Fuck Trump!
I know this is mostly a fantasy by now, but in actual reality, Russia obviously needs to give Crimea back to Ukraine and then continue minding its own fucking business.
~~Continue~~
Start
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You don’t reward a thief and murderer, you shoot them between the eyes. As a Dutchman, I wholeheartedly support shooting every uniformed Russian or allied you can find. Twice.
In all fairness, I think kost Russian soldiers aren't there by much choice, Putin loves his meat grinder and has pulled well over a million Russians through it.
Yes, that is a problem that Russians should fix themselves, but still. Any soldiers surrendering should be treated well. Show them they've really been figuring on the wrong side
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Well good for them. Bending knee to Putin won’t secure peace, it’ll only secure them an intermission until Putin can finish the job.
If anything, Russia should give up land to Ukraine!
Give back*!
That's the President of Ukraine , not like taco from the states .
Nor should they.
Nor should they. And they own their oil discoveries.
And we should donate, as we should. And fight where we can.
Demand reparations, send all the Russians back to actual Russia and Putin to The Hague
Good
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