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Dell confirms 2025 is not the year of Windows 11, as users just don't want to dump Windows 10 (www.windowslatest.com)

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[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 85 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

The fucking calendar doesn't show a whole month at once and instead a rolling 4 week selection of dates with the current week at the top. It's fucking infuriating and while I can't find a setting to switch to change that, I can change AM/PM to other custom abbreviations. No idea who that's for but hey ho whatever Microsoft

Edit: I keep posting variations on this complaint hoping someone will eventually respond to the tune of "you're a fucking moron, this is how you fix this" but it hasn't happened yet, so that leads me to believe that it's an actual fucking problem with the calendar module which blows my mind.

[–] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's easy, you just need >!to install Linux!<

[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Lmao tbf this is on a work computer where I don't have that kind of control.

I still have 10 on the home PC and I get closer and closer to installing Linux on it every time I tinker with my raspberry pi. That said, I fear the same issues will come up. The second something doesn't work right, I'm gonna have to turn to hunting down forum posts with issues similar to mine but slightly different and randomly applying fixes I don't truly understand until something works. Not that this is all that dissimilar to when windows 10 breaks, but that happens far less often than it does with the Linux distros I've used.

Then comes the concern that I won't be able to find drivers for the hardware I have, or if I upgrade hardware that it'll be much harder to get drivers for newer stuff... I'd love to ditch Microsoft, but Linux, while much better than a decade ago, is still a shlep to use

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean here's the comparison:

With Linux, you select the right tool to the job. The ones given to you out the gate depending on what you install (Mint vs Arch, for instance) might be enough for all your needs, and you get to pick and choose starting gear. If you need more tools after the fact, you have a software center to install flatpacks for anything generic you may want, and the terminal lets you go wild if there's anything special not covered you need modified. There's manual pages, and the forms are last resort for most.

On Windows, you are given a generic toolset. Usually it works, but sometimes they just break for no discernable reason. You can call Microsoft for support, but good luck talking to a human. You can't pick a different starting toolset, and while you can install software (by using a web browser and hoping you don't get phished), it's difficult to change underlying components without getting blocked by the OS or breaking a core function. Windows forums are quite a wasteland, and almost nothing is documented for the user.

[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's true and it makes sense.

But the frequency of issues requiring extra work is far higher with Linux than Windows, in my experience, and it's often a much longer process to fix with Linux.

With Linux, I often run into issues that I'll patiently tinker with for hours, but eventually run into a wall, resolve to address another day. And I'll learn a lot about computers along the way! That's fine and even fun when it's my self-hosted recipe app (which apparently simply cannot run on a Raspberry Pi except for all the people who said they got it working on their machine yet their solutions don't work on mine), but it's far more frustrating when it's an application for something more basic like music or video playback, word processing or spreadsheets or internet browsing.

Of course all the same kind of problems can occur on a Windows machine, but, at least in my life, it happens less than once a year as opposed to Linux where it seems to happen once per "new thing" I try to do. Some day I'll do it. But right now, Windows 10 "just works" in a way that's more valuable.

[–] shishka_b0b@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There's a pretty good chance the Linux issues you're having are actually Raspberry Pi issues. I've had to do so much more tinkering with SBCs to get things to work compared to x86 systems

[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I thought that too, at least when I was trying all this on my Pi Zero 2 W but I think the 5 is x64 innit?

I take on projects on my weeks off, tho, so maybe I'll set up a dual boot during my Q1 week off and take it from there.

[–] shishka_b0b@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

The rpi 5 processor is armv8 and it lacks a lot of support in general. That thing has made me want to break my keyboard in half a few too many times lol

[–] binarytobis@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm gonna have to turn to hunting down forum posts

The real strength of Linux is you can go on the forums and get a flood of enthusiastic help from people who know what they’re talking about, no matter how basic the problem. Every Microsoft help thread I’ve seen is fifty people saying “I have this exact problem!” and one rep saying “This is a known problem. Thread closed.”

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Don't forget the first response that always gives the steps to solve a simpler version of that issue, almost like the responses are being copy/pasted from a guide by people who barely understand anything about it themselves.

Plus these days the number of solutions that refer to some setting that no longer exists in the location it did at the time the solution was written.

Meanwhile on Linux, I haven't even had to search as much for solutions. Yesterday I installed a new desktop that I've never used before (KDE-Plasma) and was quickly able to figure out the changes I wanted to make because it's designed to be discoverable and obvious. Whereas I'd say that Windows seems designed to make people either feel tempted to pay for a solution or give up and just do it the way MS wants.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago

"I'm doing my part!"

I love helping ppl w/ questions :)

[–] CMDR_Horn@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Just pick a distro and a small cheap ssd, and make sure you use btrfs and enable snapshotting schedule from day one. Then If you get in that situation its super easy to flip back to an earlier state.

You will absolutely me counter situations that force you to investigate a bit, but as you use it those will become less frequent.

Stay in the Linux environment as long as you can take it. If you get frustrated hop back in windows a bit until you get the hankering to try again.

Worst case scenario is you're out ~20 USD. (Though I understand that's too much for some)

[–] randy@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Are you talking about the calendar that appears when you click the time on the (by default) right side of the task bar? Because mine shows a full month. This is how it's been since I upgraded from Windows 10. So I don't know what setting you have to change, but at least it's possible.

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[–] Midnitte@beehaw.org 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Might be related to resolution - i don't think it shows a whole month on my small work laptop

[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 week ago

Hm I hadn't considered that. I'm also using a small work laptop here.

[–] source_of_truth@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You can click on the date and then click on a thingy to show the whole month. But only on the main monitor. Fucking shitass Windows, how could they fuck it up so badly?

[–] ibot@feddit.org 44 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Dell is (or was?) already selling laptops with Ubuntu. They have experience with it. They should put it on more machines and sell them for 100$ less. If people don't want Windows 11, offer them alternatives!

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Still is

They are already much less due to big needing win license

[–] ibot@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah, if you configure the laptop on Dells website, you can choose Ubuntu for some models.

I would love to see more Linux notebooks on third party online shops and offline stores. Not just from Dell, but also other vendors.

In my whole life, I never saw a Linux notebook in any local store. I'm living in Germany, so the situation might be different somewhere else, but I asume it's the same in whole Europe and north America.

[–] yardratianSoma@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I like how Dell has all this data, and still somehow believe that AI will help sell Windows 11, and also seem to think that Apple's affordable products are the only alternative option for those holding out on updating to windows 11.

Oh wait, look at this headline from 3 weeks ago, "Microsoft signs $9.7 billion cloud deal with IREN as AI demand swells".

AI-server maker Dell was also up about 1%, as it would provide IREN with Nvidia's GB300 chips and other equipment that Microsoft (MSFT.O), opens new tab will use for about $5.8 billion.

Oh wait, they only care about their corporate customers, what's new? Water is wet?

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 8 points 1 week ago

My work machine has been “upgraded” to a windows 11. Dark mode, The start menu and explorer are still broken as shit, but at least IT removed and blocked all the AIshit.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Dell has a chance to do the funniest thing ever…

[–] Dettweiler42@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They started offering Ubuntu on their laptops. My company made W11 a requirement, unfortunately.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Yea they don’t want to have to pay for IT people that know anything more than scripts.

[–] Reginald_T_Biter@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Listen to the language used in this article. Fucking creatures these corpo ghouls.

[–] orioler25@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago

It's too much work to use, plain and simple. It has officially become more of a hassle to run Windows than it is to just download a user-friendly Linux distro and learn about docker.

[–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I don't want more fucking AI baked into my operating system. I just want a computer that works in a way I can deal with, then gets out of my way.

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[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Year of the Linux desktop though

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 5 points 1 week ago

My new Linux laptop arrives Tuesday. I'm out

[–] JokeDeity@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Can't imagine why.

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Microsoft leadership: "Guess we don't have enough AI features"

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Kill me now

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 week ago

LTSC IoT

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago

I have a single W10 machine left and that's only for VR, everything else is Debian and I couldn't be happier. It only does what I tell it to, updates never break stuff, the Debian repository has literally everything I need.

The 20min a week I spend on W11 PCs at work has only cemented in my mind how much I do not want to deal with that shit.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago

Just 5 weeks left. You can do it windows 11!

How about an update that turns everyone's Windows 10 in a color flickering mess? Would that not definitely convince everyone to go directly to windows 11?

How about automatically deleting all our emails from odd numbered Wednesdays? Wednesday 5th? Electric bill? Fuck that message! This will convince anyone that windows 11 with AI will be the solution to all our problems!

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

A.S.T.E.R.

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