its not even worth the time, let alone the cost, plus potential health issue arise from the stress. Unless you are going for degree with an indemand field like health, or something else, and not theoretical work(research) which is mostly filled with people that afford to study all day, afford grad school. even if you go to CC school before transfer, its just as depressing, alot of them dont have an idea about which 4 year school they go to, and many of them struggle and wash out the CC,(ours and 1 near use decided to have very difficult classes for most majors, so the chances of washing it is higher, they alleged its for validating class for nearby UC, personally i think its a bs methods intentionally to make people stay longer because they fail class/drop class, so they have retake or delay thier transfer, therefore its more profit for the school).
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In a dramatic shift, Americans no longer see four-year college degrees as worth the cost
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I should have been an escalator repairman. Those guys look like they have job security.
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There are still plenty of jobs that are gated by a college credential. Tech was the biggest way aorund skipping it, and tech is imploding.
It very much depends on the degree.
Its 2025 are we seriously still taking "polls" as fact?
Polls have been pretty accurate. Some of the polls involving elections Trump specifically runs in have been less accurate, but even the polling of his race in 2024 was pretty accurate.
I have to disagree with them.
As I've been saying, college is not for the undecided or the indecisive. If you do not have a clear and cut career goal in mind and you still go through college, you will find yourself in a world of debt and financial hurt. All for nothing. All for a degree that means nothing because it sounded cool to you.
Do you really need an arts degree? Do you really need a liberal arts degree? Do you really need a philosophy degree?
No to all, that's just examples.
The sad thing is that college is and has been viewed for at least my entire life as just a more elaborate version of a vo-tech school.
Which I kind of understand - I didn't want to come out of uni with no path forward either, so I went for CS. Believe me, I understand the game.
However - it's a real shame that we don't treat K-12 or university as something to really broaden the mind, but only as a way to sort the population into various ways to earn money. Essentially ONLY used as a job training program.
Instead of treating education as something that should be about getting a liberal education in every sense of that word with the aim of making as many people as possible autodidacts so they could not only think for themselves, but they could teach themselves nearly anything they care to learn, K-12 + higher education is expected to be about prep for a job. This kind of education essentially makes "do your own research" little more than a punchline aimed at morons who are doing no such thing.
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