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The latest NBC News poll shows two-thirds of registered voters down on the value proposition of a degree. A majority said degrees were worth the cost a dozen years ago.

Americans have grown sour on one of the longtime key ingredients of the American dream.

Almost two-thirds of registered voters say that a four-year college degree isn’t worth the cost, according to a new NBC News poll, a dramatic decline over the last decade.

Just 33% agree a four-year college degree is “worth the cost because people have a better chance to get a good job and earn more money over their lifetime,” while 63% agree more with the concept that it’s “not worth the cost because people often graduate without specific job skills and with a large amount of debt to pay off.”

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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

IMO, being educated should be at least a minimum wage job, paid by the government. This would allow students to focus on learning their crafts, instead of being distracted by part-time jobs.

[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 hour ago

This only works if minimum wage is enough to guarantee housing, food, healthcare, transportation, internet access, a small degree of entertainment, etc. you know, basic standards of living and not just modern slavery

[–] Horsey@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Employers no longer universally take a college degree as a way to skip ahead in the line of employment. A college degree should basically be a ticket to any job within that degree field. In practice, that’s incredibly unlikely. I started at minimum wage with my first job out of college lmao. My second job netted me like 50¢ more.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Many college degrees (looking at you, biological sciences) don’t even have jobs available for fresh grads. When I graduated I was competing with thousands of others for like 5 jobs in the country. After my internship ran out I was never able to work in the field again.

Schools keep pushing those degrees though because it gives their professors a constant supply of free labor (interning in a lab is usually required to graduate).

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 41 minutes ago* (last edited 40 minutes ago)

same situation, but minus the interships. biotech, research almost next to no jobs in the field unless you have significant undergrad experience, and getting lab experience while undergrad seems very limited. and when i look at the people employed or in the labs, its almost dominated 1 demographic, which apparently has been given a leg up for years, hence why dominate the biology field(mostly around health).

its meant to be gatekeep for phd,and lesser extent masters

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[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

But you do need one in retail to move from line worker to management in most companies

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 43 minutes ago

originally they use softwares to screen out applicants based on nebelous requirements, like keywords. now its done by AI screening which made it worst.

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Damn that sucks. Here I am sitting at Uni only paying for the public transport ticket basically.

I feel so free to be able to do this.

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[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago (5 children)

No longer? I didn't see them as worth the cost fifteen years ago. That's why I emigrated back to my home country so I could study virtually for free.

[–] velindora@lemmy.cafe 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

I think it depends pretty dramatically where you go. It might not be worth it if you go to a school that costs 40k a year. But college in general opens doors to a lot of positions.

Not to say college is the only viable option.

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Right on target! Keeping the masses uneducated is one of the main goals.

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I should have been an escalator repairman. Those guys look like they have job security.

I notice they always have their shoelaces tied, too.

[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Shit, I figured this out 20 years ago. Where has everyone else been?

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