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[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 73 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Israeli forces on Thursday killed a pair of Palestinian men in the occupied West Bank after they appeared to surrender to troops, drawing Palestinian accusations that the men were executed “in cold blood.” The Israeli military said it was investigating.

The IDF is filled with racist motherfuckers who should be charged with murder and promptly sent to the worst jail in the world.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 44 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Seriously, the IDF is hardly a professional military at this point, in most ways it is simply a formalized institution for ethnic cleansing using expensive military equipment they are given as handouts by the US military.

The IDF does not even follow basic rules of engagement, they see a civilian, have impulse feelings about it and then shoot. No threat analysis, no consideration over whether lethal force is necessary by a chain of command and absolutely NO accountability for blatant horrific war crimes. The IDF is not a military, it is a bunch of murderers wearing military fatigues.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not disagreeing, but "at this point" implies they were ever anything else.

[–] homura1650@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Back in 1994, the IDF granted Itamar Ben-Gvir an exemption from mandatory military service due to his right wing views. He has since been convicted (in Israeli courts) of supporting a terrorist organization, and is currently serving as Israel's minister of national security; and is a key figure in maintaining the current governing coalition.

The governing coalition has been in constant tension with senior IDF leadership, which has long argued that all achievable military objectives in Gaza have been achieved, and that continued operation is counter productive.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 10 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

The governing coalition has been in constant tension with senior IDF leadership, which has long argued that all achievable military objectives in Gaza have been achieved, and that continued operation is counter productive.

The IDF is still full of foot soldiers who have willingly and knowingly prosecuted the Palestinian Genocide, the entire "military" structure is complicit top to bottom. IDF soldiers all the way from the top leadership down to grunts deserve to be in jail equally.

Israeli society has been radicalized into genocide, complicity is omnipresent and distributed down chains of command, if IDF personnel think they can argue "I was just following orders!" they are ignorant fools who refused to learn history or listen to basic calls for human empathy and they deserve to be prosecuted as active and willing participants in the Palestinian Genocide to the full extent possible.

[–] demonsword@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago

has long argued that all achievable military objectives in Gaza have been achieved

Over 120k people dead. Most buildings and infrastructure turned to rubble. "Mission accomplished".

[–] PanGodofPanic@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They've proven themselves a capable actual army in the past against numerically far superior opponents, displaying both organizational and individual competence alongside their evil. Now they don't even have that. It's just a very well funded gang.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 13 points 22 hours ago

Yeah that's fair, though I do have to note that other than Yom Kippur in none of Israel's past conflicts was it seriously outnumbered. That's the image they like to sell, and intuitively it feels like it should be true, but it's really not. Israel has always been good at raising massive armies relative to their population, and for instance surprisingly way outnumbered their enemies in 1948. Again not contesting your point; I agree that they were much more competent in the past.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

If you refer to the 47 it is propaganda. The numbers of soldiers on both sides was very close and at first the zionists militias weapons was inferior but chsnged quickly

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

My understanding is that they absolutely get their shit pushed in when they can't hide behind their airplanes and have to fight armed adversaries in face-to-face combat.

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Oct 7th offensive was only turned around when gunships showed up. "The best most badass armed forces" in one of the most fortified and militarized region on earth were utterly destroyed by guys with trucks and AKs.

The myth of the IDF being elite and uniquely brave is one of the biggest dog shit lies ever told.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Not only the idf but israeli leadership since it's creation

[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 30 points 1 day ago

The murdered we're Al-Muntasir Billah Abdullah, 26; and Youssef Asasa, 37.

Their poor families.. Also, fuck the AP for making that paragraph 11. Jeez.

[–] jazzkoalapaws@ttrpg.network 29 points 19 hours ago

Here's the video: https://files.catbox.moe/58sxzg.mp4

Modern "journalism" is a crock of shit.

[–] DaMummy@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

For the people who want to see the video. PS: DON'T. There's a good reason outlets are only posting pictures. https://veganism.social/users/vega/statuses/115624229593254481

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

and took the bodies afterward for organ harvesting

[–] perestroika@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

answersplease77@lemmy.world wrote:

and took the bodies afterward for organ harvesting

False. Instead they used an excacator to collapse part of the warehouse building (the rather large liftable door) on the victims' bodies, likely hoping to hide their deeds for a while. They were unaware that a journalist was filming them with a telephoto lens.

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

You are false. Watch the full video at 2:05 they brought a stretcher to take the bodies afterward:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=B7t-IGOokbU

and there have hundrends of bodies returned with missing organs. It's their standard protocol to take the bodies they execute same as this video too:

https://www.reddit.com/r/UnderReportedNews/comments/1oy9f94/israeli_soldiers_were_filmed_assaulting_a/

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

If people don't watch it then the IDF wins. The videos and photos documenting atrocities are being suppressed with the excuse that they are "too graphic" for the general public to see.

[–] DaMummy@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Graphic isn't even the right term to describe it. It's just... Nonchalant. It's very much like that recent Oscar winning movie about Nazi Germany, where people are just living their lives while horrors are happening in the background. There's way more graphic footage of this genocide, but this one just struck me in a weird way.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

That sounds like Israel. A country that should be bombed into the ground on the character traits of its armed services alone, without even getting into the politics or history of the place.

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 15 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

same exact thing that happened few months ago too. IOF ambushed a guy in the West Bank who surrendered with both his hands up

https://youtube.com/watch?v=uPNqYEV3z1c

https://youtube.com/shorts/1r5E039-fUc

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca -3 points 15 hours ago

Well yeah. Much safer to do so then when they are shooting back.