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[–] Naz@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Good. Great. Amazing.

$1,000 RAM prices and now GPUs are also going to become unaffordable.

[–] monkeyman512@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

I must have blinked and missed when they were affordable.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago

more unaffordable.

[–] Thorry@feddit.org 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I think we might be seeing the end of consumer desktop computers coming to pass. The market will split into phones and tablet, which most people use for most things traditionally a computer would be used for. Laptops are widely used for more work like stuff. Thin clients connecting to virtual desktops is already the norm in a lot of companies. Desktop computers might go back to where they were in the 80s and early 90s, very expensive high end prosumer equipment. Only for real enthusiasts, who see it as a hobby and want to invest heavily, or professionals that need the local compute power of a workstation. The computer industry was already in big trouble just before covid, then we suddenly all needed work from home setups or spent more time at home so wanted a new better computer, which caused the industry to pick back up. This AI bubble might just kill it finally, with prices skyrocketing, people will be hesitant to buy new hardware for a while.

[–] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world 10 points 18 hours ago

Thin clients connecting to virtual desktops is already the norm

I can't believe I have lived long enough to see the return of the dumb terminal.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 10 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

I was there, from the start* to the end* of the golden era of Personal Computer.

* 3000 years ago
** 2990 years ago

[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 8 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

It won't be the end. The bubble will burst, likely violently after being pushed far too far and for far too long, and when it does, the manufacturers will need clientele again. We'll likely see yet another greed-fuelled standardised increase in base prices due components but it won't be the end of the customisable desktop. At the very least, I absolutely won't be buying a tablet. No corpo can force me to do that and I know a lot of people in the space will agree.

[–] Thorry@feddit.org 7 points 22 hours ago

You are probably a prosumer, somebody who knows their stuff and doesn't want an inferior experience like on a tablet, console or notebook. Something upgradable, to invest in and use for many years. That market will certainly exist, but prices will be much higher than they are today.

I remember back in the day when I bought my 40MB hard drive it was around $3000 in todays money. I had to really save up to get that thing. I labelled the partition "LARGE" because my mind was blown at 40 whole megabytes of storage.

No idea where we are headed, it's pretty uncertain at this point.

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 3 points 20 hours ago

At the very least, I absolutely won't be buying a tablet. No corpo can force me to do that and I know a lot of people in the space will agree.

I said exactly the same thing. Then I bought a set of standalone DJ decks from a coworker and it REQUIRES windows to run the program to analyse the tracks and load a USB. Cheapest thing I could find in spec was a Microsoft Surface Pro 5. £50 delivered. Don't care about it being stuck on win10 because I don't connect it to the net. It's only job is to run that one program and some standalone synths so I can noodle on the midi keyboard and mix at the same time.

Well.... it's also got an ebook/manga reader installed too. I load those files from a usb or SD card though.

[–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 0 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

greed-fuelled

Companies who build AI datacenters or NVIDIA are just as "greedy" as the company that sold the other user a 40MB hdd or the company you bought your last piece of equipment from. It's driven by the dynamic of the free market, not by individuals who you could attribute something like greed to.

[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I'm referring to how there's been a trend of "cost of X just increased 15%". Granted I can't, and won't presume to, speak for every individual case but we have access to know enough that these increases often aren't tied to necessity within a company. When profits are increasing year-over-year but the price still goes up, that's a decision made by a greedy someone(s) somewhere up in the pecking order.

[–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

If higher prices wouldn't throttle demand, virtually every company (extremely few "ethical" exceptions) would increase prices. That's how prices are set in the first place: probe what customers are willing to pay. It's the game that's greedy, not the players. Even you and me could become corrupted if we've find ourselves higher up in the pecking order.

[–] voytrekk@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 day ago

This could screw over some smaller board partners. They might not have the deals in place to secure the RAM chips they need.

[–] Lojcs@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wasn't this all happening because Nvidia bought all the supply

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

They've gotta save that supply to feed the AI bubble, though.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

…I wonder what it would take for Intel to get in the memory business.

Or GloFo? WTF are the euro fabs doing these days?

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 2 points 11 hours ago

Bring back Optane! I'm still using a couple PCIe cards in raid as my boot drive on my home server. The RAM versions of Optane were quite interesting too.

[–] mrfriki@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

Probably the end of many, if not all, third party vendors.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Is this only going to affect graphics cards or is this going to also bottleneck gpus for servers and high end workstations?

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

High end workstation is the same silicon/memory as gaming cards.

They’re presumably “saving” it for the high margin server GPUs, under the presumption that memory makers will allocate more production to HBM.