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[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I mean... the first nations have made it crystal clear that there will not be tankers on BC's North Coast.

Unless this is some calculated move to get Danielle to stfu in the short term (with no real intent to follow through) I think this will blow up in Carneys face in the long term.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Neoliberals will literally kill us all to enrich shareholders.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

For sure. Unless we dismantle it.

[–] Album@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

This is the economic centrism we voted for. We all knew Carney was going to do this under the guise of national economic protections against the shifting global alliances as of late. That's what we wanted. Right?

[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm not sure that people voted for Carney as much as they were backed into a corner and forced to vote for him as a vote against Poilievre.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Until we can get rid of fptp there isn't much hope

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago

Actually, there kind of isn't? They lost their party status in the last election because Liberals don't understand how strategic voting works, and the NDP lost too many seats to Conservatives in the process.

[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 4 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

If the threat of losing the election was to the Liberals then yes. But until we ditch fptp we're stuck with a two party system pretending to be a multi-party system.

[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 3 points 18 hours ago

Yep, and normally I'd say you gotta just be the change and vote for a losing party to build support.

But with what's happening in the abyss that is the States right now, taking a step backward in order to move forward feels much more dangerous than ever before.

We need electoral reform, but asking for it, and being promised it, sure hasn't been working.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Except the previous two elections had the NDP holding the balance of power?

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] grte@lemmy.ca 0 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Not to mention that by the numbers we are still in that position. It's just the Liberals chose a party leader who appears to have a specific hostility towards the NDP and would rather court the CPC for votes.

[–] kbal@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you were backed into a corner and forced to vote for someone in the recent election, CBC news would like to hear from you.

[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Which alternative should I have chosen: Voting for who I want and letting Cons win, or not voting at all and letting Cons win.

[–] kbal@fedia.io 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Well it's up to you, but personally I tend to vote for the local candidate I'd prefer to win.

[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 16 hours ago

I wish I could do that, but it's not worth the risk when my local guy wins and we lose massively at a federal level, so local guy can't really do much of anything at all.

[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

Yes definitely why Canada voted for him /s

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 1 points 20 hours ago

Funny. During the election when I pointed out Carney was a conservative I was told to read his marketing material, sorry I mean book, Values which practically painted him as a social democrat.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Told you so. (To this community)

But y'all told me to shut up. That Carney was going to save us.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

He probably did. What he’s saving us for now… that’s another thing.

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So theres this guy, Carney, he's the current prime minister of Canada which is kind of like a president, and theres this other guy, Guilbeault, pronounced kind of french as in you skip all the letters and just say Gil Bo, he's been serving positions since the Trudeau administration that came before, and he is mad because Carney and Crew made a deal to make a big giant oil pipeline and Builbeault doesn't want us to destroy the planet so he's real mad about it and leaving his position in the PM's Cabinet.

“I chose to enter politics to champion the fight against climate change and the protection of the environment,” Guilbeault wrote in a lengthy statement on social media.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We can have a little bitumen, as a treat

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago

Sooo...just fuck BC again, then?

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Guy quits over a pipeline that will never happen.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Kinda maybe. He can't stay and answer the questions about his env cred with "the pipeline won't happen." That would undermine the PM's charade. So ether he loses that cred, or he quits to preserve it.

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

I'd argue his enviro cred was already lost when he was part of the previous government who purchased/completed the TMX. He was onboard with something that actually happened, but somehow not onboard with something that is still in pre-proposal stages.

Weird.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 20 hours ago

Oh yeah, I had forgotten he was a part of that.