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[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 108 points 1 day ago (6 children)

We’ve never had better technology to build safer cars and streets, and yet here we are. Pedestrian detection and all, installed on a vehicle that’s got a front grille as tall as a person.

I saw someone watching a movie on their phone as they drove the other day, also a probable factor.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 49 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Investment in better infrastructure with no profit is a crime against capitalism.

[–] makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (9 children)

I met a woman who told me that during the pandemic lock downs she made money driving to legal weed states to spend tens of thousands of dollars on weed and flip it back in her state. She also told me that it was really boring so she'd frequently get above 100 while watching a movie on her phone on her dashboard. So that's who's out on the road with you

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Fucking.

Wild.

That kind of behaviour should just be an immediate and permanent revocation of the license, car towed on the spot. Fiddling with phone to get directions or dismiss a notification is one thing but actively watching entertainment?

I have ADHD. It’s not super severe but it’s not great. I can drive 16 hrs (with appropriate breaks) without the radio. I will admit, I tend not to be super respectful of speed limits. But driving is enough stimulation for my scatterbrained self. Brain rot is a hell of a drug.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I also have ADHD, and have also done a 16 hour drive straight through. Audiobooks or podcasts help. Music gets boring after a few hours. Audiobooks or podcasts are constantly changing, so it’s enough mental stimulation to stay engaged, while also not being too distracting.

[–] hcbxzz@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Punishment for bad driving iof any kind is nearly completely unenforced.

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[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People like this are why safe drivers’ insurance premiums are still so high. The safe drivers are subsidizing the dangerous ones. We’re being forced to pay more because the risk of being hit by a braindead watches-movies-while-doing-100 driver has increased.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

That's the end result of car centric infrastructure. The bad drivers couldn't afford to pay the full rates they would be charged. If you kick 10-20% of the population off the road, that is a whole lot of people siddenly unable to work

That many people suddenly stopping working would destroy the only thing Americans truly value - shareholder profits

We have no alternatives to driving. As such the worst drivers you've ever seen will continue to drive by necessity

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

That’s absolutely wild. Before my state started selling legal weed, I would sometimes take trips to Massachusetts to buy enough to last me for months.

The one thing I never did on those drives? Speed.

I figured I was already technically breaking the law by carrying so much weed across non-legal states. To get pulled over for speeding could’ve led to massive trouble. Why put a target on my car (beyond already having an out-of-state license plate)?

I went the other way - I meticulously watched for speed limit changes and set my cruise control accordingly, so it would be one fewer thing to worry about. When possible, I drove so there’d be a car some distance in front of me, but still within my view. That way, if there was a cop up ahead, I’d see the other car slow down first and it would give me a heads up.

Adding more distractions and driving more erratically when you’re already breaking one law is a really stupid way to get caught.

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[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

Yup. When you look around, everybody is on their fucking phone these days. No wonder they are killing people.

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[–] KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 77 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Vehicles are getting way too big on average, I mean the F150 is North America's best selling vehicle (*edit: I have since learned as of 2024 that spot actually belongs to the RAV4) since forever. It's a problem of misaligned incentives.

There's an exception carved out for large vehicles in the EPA guidelines that hold them to less stringent emissions standards which incentivizes building larger vehicles 1

Large cars are also incentivized by our crash safety rating system which only takes into account the mortality rate of those inside the car as apposed to average related fatalities. This means it will prioritize safety of those in the vehicle, which has led to our average fatalities increasing. 2

As an unintended side effect this also damages roads much faster because vehicle weight per axle determines the magnitude of the damage a vehicle does to the road. 3 anecdotally this makes me concerned for the additional weight that electric cars add.

Also as vehicles increase in weight the amount of microplastics put into the air as a by product of tire wear increase. 4

As cars increase in size (and therefore weight) the downsides are exponential.

[–] Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All that plus everyone is going 10 over on their phones. If operating a motor vehicle is so disinteresting to you, that you need to look at your phone every 10 seconds, DON'T DRIVE.

[–] Waldelfe@feddit.org 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't drive for many years because I always lived in cities with good public transport. When I drove again for the first time in 2021 I was shocked by how basically everyone went 10 over. I really feel this has gotten way worse in the last 20 years. Going 60 where the speedlimit is 50 seems to be the rule, not the exception nowadays.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

huh? i've been driving since the 90s and it's always been that way. speed limits are not typically enforced until you are going 20+ over the limit.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 15 hours ago

Where do you live? Where I am, they act like you murdered and ate a toddler if you go 5 mph over. I had a cop give me a $180 speeding ticket for going 30 in a 25, in a gated active adult community at 10:30 at night, and the cop had the nerve to tell me it was to protect "the children." It's an active adult community, children can't live here, and it was 10:30 at night. Not a lot of little kids playing in my neighborhood at 10:30 at night. Yet the cop actually said that with a straight face. I was already getting the ticket, so I made sure to remind him how absolutely absurd that excuse was, and he should just man up and admit that the county wants my Christmas money, and they're taking it.

They've got red light cameras everywhere around here, and now they're putting them in every school zone. I already got a $110 ticket in the mail for going 6 mph over in a school zone.

This week it was announced that they've been gaming the system by making the school zone area too big, and theyve been giving out tickets to people who weren't in the legal school zone. They should have to return the money from EVERY ticket.

That isn't new either. They already got in trouble for manipulating the timing on the yellow lights in intersections with red light cameras, so they can nail a few extra people each day, that didn't actually violate the law.

And by the way, I've learned to be a LOT more careful around the holiday season. Most of the tickets I've gotten in my life, especially the really stupid ones, have happened in December. The cops are always out on full force, and they must be trying to hit their annual quotas, or perhaps they just know that people have been saving their money for gifts, so they know they can pay a ticket instead.

Predatory pigs.

[–] CainTheLongshot@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Thank you for putting these links together! I'm about to be in the market for a truck and have been researching current models, and noticed the trend of larger and larger vehicles for a few years now, and wondered why. It couldn't just be because of lifted truck culture. I'm about to just go to a junk yard and try to restore an old one.

[–] KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

It sucks too because the old trucks with a low bed were so much better for actualy doing work if you care about your back at all.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 3 points 12 hours ago

We should try to use AI to manipulate culture into making low trucks popular again.

/not sure if serious

[–] espentan@lemmy.world 77 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I got curious.. In Norway pedestrian fatalities fell by ~73% (from 22 to 6) from 2010 to 2024.

Source, a quick search on SSB.no.

[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ah! So Norwegians immigrating to the US are to blame! /s

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

And it's all the bad drivers and reckless pedestrians too!

[–] AshMan85@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (15 children)

and its 100% from unnecessarily large cars

[–] pumpkin_spice@lemmy.today 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You don't like the 'pedestrian mower' trucks, where the driver can't see anything that's less than 30 feet in front of them? Weird. /s

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[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago

bah. children are not the future. Ever talk to one? pretty ignorant.

[–] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

Average car size probably rose approximately 70% as well. I remember when Hummers were considered absurdly large, now they're not even the largest things on the road.

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[–] starlinguk@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And now the States has forced the EU to allow shit cars like that.

[–] falseWhite@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Nobody forced them, EU politicians are Trump bootlickers, cowards afraid to stand up to a bully.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder if it's all of the touch screens? I got in a rideshare vehicle the other day and the driver had fucking youtube on

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 27 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Trucks and SUVs have also gotten bigger with flatter fronts. People used to go onto the hood in a collision, now they go under the vehicle

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I think that's been true for a long time though

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[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (6 children)

The share of pedestrians increased over that period, which may have had something to do with it. I suspect cell phone use while driving makes up a large part as well.

[–] toast@retrolemmy.com 24 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I agree with you on cell phone use being a contributor. I'm not convinced that pedestrian numbers contribute at all to the increase. I'm not really even convinced that pedestrian numbers have increased at all. Population, yes, has increased but given how growingly hostile most of the US is to pedestrian traffic, I wouldn't be surprised to hear that real pedestrian numbers have decreased.

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[–] Cheems@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I live in a small town and when I'm walking around it seems as though half of the vehicles that drive by are in their phones

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[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 6 points 1 day ago

Yes. And while walking.

Lack of focus all around.

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[–] Stety@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Damn, 23 posts in 4 hours. You sure are posting fast.

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

They have to. They're driving.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That number is sure to drop soon, as clankers run everyone over instead.

[–] witty_username@feddit.nl 8 points 1 day ago

Who would've thought that market incentives and regulatory capture would lead to this?
/s

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

Expand public transportation towards the goal of banning personal cars nothing but giant space hoarding, planet destroying death machines.

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[–] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

Seeing the drivers around me, I’d believe it. Anytime I go for a walk or run I almost die. People are willing to hit another human being.

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