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[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 168 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

there are no registry of panda before the 1800

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mo_(Chinese_zoology)#Mo_giant_panda

Why do they lie about facts that are so easy to disprove?

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 102 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I mean, it’s 4chan. It says (or at least it used to) that only a fool would take its stories as real right on the webpage

[–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 69 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's greentext so the pandas are fake and gay, that's why they need to be artificially inseminated.

[–] Rose_Thorne@lemmy.zip 24 points 2 days ago

Dammit, even the pandas are Yuri.

It's inescapable.

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

The prophecy has been fulfilled.

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I just gave a brisk read through that article, btw your link is slightly off, and it doesn't seem to disprove the point much at all. What few historical Mo panda are referenced were called giant iron eating beasts in mythical tales, no artistic depictions, and most of the citations are improper/broken. One of them mentions Bencao Gangmu, a sort of catalogue of plants and animals with pictures, claims Mo panda being between Leopards and Elephants but a quick search did not reveal any such images unto me.

All of the actual depictions of black and white pandas presented on the page were in the 19th century and after.

Honestly, I'm convinced. Pandas are just painted or modified brown bears.

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

most of the citations are improper/broken

...citations... to books... not broken links lol.

[19] (tr. adapted from Harper 2013: 185, 205)

And on page 185, we find the exact text cited

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https://www.scribd.com/document/485010568/Donald-Harper-2012-2013-The-Cultural-History-of-the-Giant-Panda-in-Early-China-pdf

What few historical Mo panda are referenced were called giant iron eating beasts in mythical tales, no artistic depictions, and most of the citations are improper/broken.

For the mythical part, you're conflating Mo panda and mythical Mo chimera, which is confusing. Giant pandas are known to and commonly observed licking rocks, soil, and metal objects to supplement minerals missing from their diet of bamboo, so that's where iron eating comes from. The given ancient decriptions of them are consistent with a panda, but for some reason you've chosen not to quote those descriptions, instead crafting your own.

Resembles a bear, with a small head, short legs, mixed black and white; able to lick and consume iron, copper, and bamboo joints; its bones are strong and solid within, having little marrow; and its pelt can repel dampness.

Sounds like a panda.

No clue what you mean by my link is "slightly off"

[–] Pencilnoob@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago

I always heard they were larger and ate a specific diet of plants that are now extinct, and so have adapted to only eating low nutrition bamboo and it's caused them to barely be able to reproduce.

[–] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 29 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Obviously, duh. The pandas are the ones running the simulation

[–] 5ibelius9insterberg@feddit.org 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yep, guess who is piloting the „birds“…

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago

Those are just the Flock cameras everybody's been talking about.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (4 children)

They actually debunked the simulation hypothesis recently

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

If you mean the paper saying it can't be a simulation because the universe has true randomness, which can't be created in software: we ourselves do in fact have true randomness in software, by capturing it from the environment via hardware sensors for fluctuations in temperature and such.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do you have a source for this claim?

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

For what claim?

If you mean the fact that we have true randomness, just read about how secure random number generators work, like urandom. It's not some industry secret, they're in every computer and likely every smartphone out there, and have been around for twenty years at least.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That having true randomness in machines means the study is debunked?

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If we're talking about the same thing, then afaik their whole claim is that we aren't in a simulation, because we have true randomness which can't be created in software. But it's not necessary to create true randomness in software to have it in said software.

Although I haven't read the full paper, and am going off what people wrote about it in comments.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

If you haven't read it. Why should I trust your opinion?

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Then don't trust it, what the fuck is it to me.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 0 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

I love this answer, it tells me a lot of positive things about you.

It also tells me that like me you are oh so weary.

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Btw, it's obvious from your questions that you haven't read the paper either, so this whole thread seems like pointless wankery.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 hours ago

I am also oh so weary

[–] Thorry@feddit.org 10 points 2 days ago

One of the issues of the simulation idea is that it is inherently impossible to prove or disprove. Because all the information we could have is a part of the simulation itself.

Even if there was some kind of glitch which got exposed and caused everyone to know we are in fact living in a simulation, the ones running the simulation could fix the glitch and then modify all our brains to not know it anymore, or roll back to an earlier restore point or something like that. It could even be that they have many simulations running, to study different forms of life for example. Inevitably some of the life in the simulation figures out their world isn't real, which then invalidates further data from that simulation, so it's turned off. Then by definition, if you are still alive you don't know you are in a simulation.

Whilst a cool idea to base a book or movie on, it isn't something to take seriously. It's a self-reinforcing idea with zero evidence and no way to test, prove or disprove.

[–] TheFerrango@lemmings.world 1 points 1 day ago

The new RAM shortages confirms the simulation theory though. Think about it, we start building more and more datacenters => the real servers running the simulation saturate their memory and whoever’s running the simulation needs to upgrade their memory => simulation computing power is artificially capped for a few “years” (a few weeks in reality for the memory upgrade to be delivered and installed)

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

I thought that was mice.

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

Bamboo-zled? But "Panda'd to" was right there!

[–] HollowNaught@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago

Wait until this guy hears about koalas...

[–] halvar@lemy.lol 18 points 1 day ago

wake up honey new conspiracy just dropped

[–] Bonsoir@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 days ago

#Pandasarentreal

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

"I felt like putting a bullet between the eyes of every Panda that wouldn't screw to save its species."

[–] drolex@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

IS IT FAKE????