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[–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 243 points 2 days ago (14 children)

Nah, libraries are theft. When you borrow a book from a library and you read it, then you have stolen a book from the publisher. Then you give it back and the next person comes along and reads the same book, stealing even more from the publisher.

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[–] runner_g@lemmy.blahaj.zone 147 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Your meme has inspired me to renew my library card.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 2 days ago

We should all aspire to be the Oceans 11 heist of having a library card.

[–] 18107@aussie.zone 66 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

If you read the book really fast, you can read it multiple times, costing the publisher even more. If you read it enough times, you could even force the publisher into bankruptcy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Sunde#Kopimashin

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[–] interdimensional_sharts@lemmy.world 57 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Yup. Tbh, memory in general is theft. You should not be able to have the memory of the book you read unless you keep paying for it. Really should be introducing subscription models for memories of experiences, like reading. Otherwise it’s lobotomy for you.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Please...please don't give them ideas.

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[–] Spezi@feddit.org 8 points 1 day ago

People with dementia will save so much money.

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[–] baggins@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 days ago
[–] madjo@feddit.nl 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Best option is to just buy the book and not read it! That's the best option for the publishers.

[–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 5 points 1 day ago

as well as uni classes

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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Somebody just got promoted at the ACS. ;p

[–] Siethron@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

You wouldn't download a ~~car~~ book

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[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 51 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Why’s that? Is it just in case you put it in the wrong spot?

[–] capybeby@sh.itjust.works 100 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Primarily, yes. But also most libraries run a book through the check-in system when they pick it up. This marks in the system when and where the last time a book was touched was, which can be useful if it were to go missing. But mostly it’s so it doesn’t go in the wrong spot.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Who is running check on on the return cart? Who has time for that?

These a check in box in the back room. If it isn't in there, and it has a label then It's assumed to be part of the collection.

Was a literal librarian for 6 years. Pay was shite so I left.

[–] capybeby@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

Um, idk we do. I work in a busy urban library and we (circ and librarians) check in everything we pick up. We do use RFID tags so that makes it pretty easy.

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[–] FrChazzz@lemmus.org 48 points 2 days ago

The librarian at my grad school had a book cart in her house and would not let her husband put a book anywhere but on that cart once he was finished with it. Power move.

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 28 points 1 day ago

Libraries are THE BEST and the last citadel of culture left, I consider librarians Holy Crusaders of Knowledge, and they are the last bastion protecting humanity from intellectual darkness, and the forces that assail the dispersion of truth.

DEUS VULT, librarians! STRENGTH AND HONOR!

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 26 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)

I suspect that depends.

At least at finnish HelMet libraries, you can just walk in and take any book out of any shelf, and sit down to read it. Once you're done, you put it back in the exact same spot.

If you don't remember where that was, then you can hand it to a librarian to re-shelve. They will check the inventory to see where it should go.

You can actually also do that yourself, since the same system is available for finding any given book currently in the library, but it works just as well for putting something back.

All of the above is allowed without signing up for a library card.

If you want to bring a book home, that's when you go to the checkout, scan your library card, and the barcode on the book. This removes it from current inventory and logs you as the current borrower.

When you bring it back, you scan the book again and leave it on the shelf by the returns scanner. Because the book was removed from the inventory, it wont have a place on a shelf yet. Also, because the inventory of any one library here is everchanging, things may have moved around.

This system also allows you return books to a different library from where you borrowed them. Since the HelMet libraries in the capital city region all interoperate, they share collections, and the location and lending of every individual item is tracked across them all. Across four cities and 66 libraries, and even a couple library buses that visit schools and more remote spots on a schedule.

You can even browse the inventory online. See where copies of what are available, what's available but currently lent out, request something be moved to a library close to you so you can read it, or reserve a spot in line to borrow something popular.

Kinda just gushing about our libraries. If they don't have something, HelMet does intralibrary lending. They will get a certain book or item for you from another library network entirely (even from abroad), lend it out to you, and once you're done, return it back to the providing network.

They do their darndest to make physical media as accessible as the internet, and it's freaking free (for the most part, some things have a fee).

That's how it should work everywhere.

[–] Horsecook@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago (4 children)

That’s all exactly the same here in the US, except I’ve yet to come across a library that let patrons operate the scanner.

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Damn. Over here we have self-service hours.

Library card holders that sign up for it can get into a library building using their library card, outside normal opening hours, when the staff isn't even there.

[–] Horsecook@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago

That’s neat. I guess American society is too low trust for that, sadly.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

Our little local library uses RFID chips in the books. It is all self checkout, you just place it on the scanner and done.

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[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

In a comment, OP provides the other reason that libraries may not want you to read a book and return it (other than putting it in the wrong place, which occurs). Libraries may be collecting data on usage.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I assumed the OP is about returning books you've checked out. If you just come in and put them back on the shelf, the system will still think they are checked out since they never got checked in.

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Unless the library is tracking book reader stats or you actually check out the book, maybe remember how the classification system works like they were supposed to teach you in school?

Half the time I'm literally standing in front of the shelf perusing the book, it would be dumb to throw it in the book return unless I don't know or can't find the exact position where it came from.

[–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If you know how to properly reshelve the books on your own, you know who you are. Just do it. No one will care nor will anyone bother you if you aren't causing a problem. For everyone else, there is the dump cart.

I see these messages more as being aimed at those who don't even know there is a system, those who do but don't care to learn it, or some other combo of known or unknown unknowns. When books are returned improperly, it creates a moment of unnecessary work at best. At worst, it causes things to become harder for patrons and staff to find, improperly recorded, or "lost" in the system, and those types of mistakes have a tendency to add up/compound with a large enough collection.

It takes way longer to unfuck that kind of mess than to have it be put back correctly in the first place, so let the pros handle it if you're not 100% sure -- there's absolutely no shame in that.

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[–] thelasttoot@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Idk. I think it's just easier to rely on a specific someone whose job it is to put shit in the proper place than to hope every random person who takes a book off the shelf can put it back in the proper place. Like, I get what you're saying. It isn't a big ask to have people return a book after looking at it. But it's so easy for them to put it in the wrong spot. And once it's on the shelf, it's much harder to notice that it's out of place. It seems counter intuitive, but it's more efficient to simply leave the book out after looking at it

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[–] unknown1234_5@kbin.earth 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

i work at a library. please put the books in the spot labeled book return. it may not seem like it but because there are so few people working there just a few people in the library can keep us so busy we will miss the books you put down. also, check if your library has an ebook/audiobook thing like Libby. the wait times can be long but it's still pretty cool if you're into those.

[–] vrek@programming.dev 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Out of curiosity do you have a routine to periodically (annually, quarterly, I don't know) to re-arrange books put back in the wrong place?

I know they do it in warehouses to verify like "system says we have 500 of x but we have 495. System says we have 1100 of y but we have 1132" and they correct all the counts annually.

[–] smh@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

My (academic) library does. We send out a student worker with a laptop on a book cart to scan all the books on a shelf, then the next shelf, etc. The system flags if anything is missing or out of order, so the student can fix the order right then.

When I worked in a public library, every librarian adopted a section of shelves and, when it was quiet, went and made sure it was in proper order.

[–] vrek@programming.dev 7 points 1 day ago

That's actually really cool...

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Warehouse ops manager here, we call our process scheduled counts & invoice counts.

We have about 25,000 locations for parts. We count a few sections each day for our scheduled counts, and we count the entire place 3 times a year by doing it.

That helps us find and address things that may be misplaced lost or just wrong but that haven't been an issue for about 4 months.

Alternately we have a process that we used to count every location we picked parts from the day before.

The combination, when done correctly and not just fucking the dog, definately keeps you good.

I'm sad we no longer do the daily counts as it makes bigger problems than being able to check on incorrect orders within a day or 2 and not months later when no body can remember anything.

I might actually like working in a library now that I think about it

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[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I worked part time at my college library for a bit and one of my jobs was called "shelf reading", where I'd just walk up and down the rows making sure the book numbers were in the right order. It was pretty tedious.

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[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wait, are people checking out books, bringing them home and then... Just putting them on the shelves again???

[–] AtrusOfDni@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not quite. Imagine you're writing a research paper at the library. You take some books off the shelf to study from while you're there. Then, before you leave, don't reshelve the books. It's because the library tracks metrics of which books are being used and if you put it back yourself it doesn't get counted.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

For an academic Library, absolutely. But I worked at the local library here, and we didn't track anything unless you checked out the book.

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[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

In my nearby library, you can even take music and movies out. Old as shit music and movies on CDs and DVDs, but music and movies nevertheless.

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[–] Bruhh@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

I need more library memes

This is wholesome.

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