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[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 52 points 2 days ago (2 children)

No problem, boot them out of the country and nationalize their factories. About time Canada took charge of car production and reduced its reliance on the USA and crappy multi-national car makers.

[–] StoneyPicton@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I love the vibe but we would have to address the legalities. Once that is done we would also have to come to grips with foreign investment drying up. I say we can do it, but nobody, including yourself, would be willing to accept the resulting standard of living. I'm not sure how we get from under the current system but we should be pursuing that at every turn.

[–] grey_maniac@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This implies most people will roll over and accept corporate fascism and foreign control to maintain their standard of living. Which is not necessarily false. But is that what you believe?

[–] StoneyPicton@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Unfortunately I do. I'm not sure what else to say. I've written a sentence and then deleted three times. I appreciate that it sounds defeatist and that's not what I believe. I just see too many people complaining about situations they say need fixing without any mention of how they think that can happen. Many of the fixes would be detrimental the the economy because that is ultimately the problem in the first place, that we rely so heavily on it's structure. There are hundreds of approaches to the thousands of issues we face but if you tried to run for government outlining the hard fixes to pursue, you would be run out of town. I for one plan to be run out of town pretty soon, as soon as my domestic circumstances allow me the freedom to "kick bubble gum and chew ass". God I laughed at that South Park line.

[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I know, I know it would not be simple or necessarily beneficial in the short-term or maybe even the long-term. However, I'm tired of corporations being given all the rights of people, but never being treated like people in the legal system.

A person skips a mandatory court appearance, or fails to comply with a court order? Contempt charges, and jail until they comply. We need to do the equivalent to corporations.

Corporate equivalent? I dunno -- freeze their assets immediately and embargo all sales activity until they comply.

[–] StoneyPicton@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

I've been thinking for years that if we're going to keep that corporate definition then we should designate that the entity is represented by the members of the boards. Any judgement leveled against the corporation would be applied to each board member in kind. I'm thinking more of the jail side than the fine side.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] StoneyPicton@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Thanks for the link but I don't have the cognitive capacity to comprehend the meaning anymore. Suffice it to say that no matter what our laws it would be a long court battle. Let's gooooo.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well that hardly helps Canada.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Right, whereas kowtowing to American car companies is turning out to be great for Canada.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

Totally. Your sarcasm was better than mine.

But, in all fairness, we made deals before America speed-ran the fall of its own empire. We are still coming to terms with the idea that it's not going back to the way it was, like the stages of grief.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Uh... at every court hearing say that we are facing "technical difficulties" and are indefinitely postponing your court date.

[–] Zamboni_Driver@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Nationalize their factories?

What product would we build in these nationalized factory?

Where would the parts come from?

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 days ago

Just do it. We'll figure out all that shit later. Are you a Canadian or a Can'tnadian? /s

[–] cyborganism@piefed.ca 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Trains. Let's build trains and reduce our reliance on cars.

[–] Zamboni_Driver@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wo were are just nationalizing the building? You can't use an automotive factory to build trains.

[–] cyborganism@piefed.ca 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Stop being so defeatist lol

[–] Zamboni_Driver@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Uh what?

You need a train factory to build trains. You need an automotive supply chain to build cars.

Stop being so simple-minded. You need to have knowledge of things if you're going to state opinions about them.

[–] Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

First step is you use your fucking brain and build a supply chain.

[–] Zamboni_Driver@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Apparently for you the first step is to empty your mind.

[–] Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Sure thing bud.

[–] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 30 points 2 days ago

When we have important meetings at work, we set everything up ahead of time. We test the connection. We make sure EVERYTHING is ready in advance.

Then if things fall apart so badly that it can't be fixed on the spot, SOMEONE WITH A FRICKIN' CELL PHONE CAN CALL!

There is no excuse for this - none. It was deliberate and dismissive.

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 26 points 2 days ago

And this is why bribing foreign companies to set up shop here was a bad idea from the outset: they have no respect for us whatsoever.

[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 21 points 2 days ago

Reading the article, that sounds a lot like: "The dog ate my homework."

How about we make them physically attend?

Fuck stellantis.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago

Mr. Speaker should be able to get this Stellantis exec on speakerphone.