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Donald Trump appears poised to announce a two-year extension of Affordable Care Act subsidies, due to expire at the end of December, while setting new limits on who is eligible to receive the tax credits, according to reports.

Without an extension of Covid-19-era Obamacare subsidies, insurance premiums for nearly 22 million American citizens threaten to more than double early next year, a point made repeatedly by Democrats during the recent 43-day government shutdown, who refused to sign a stopgap spending bill that did not address the problem.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 124 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Remember when we had a legislative branch and not an autocrat?

We need to stop normalizing this unilateral shit

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 36 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yep. This is most likely illegal. As usual.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 8 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Did you guys read as far as paragraph 3?

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 20 points 4 days ago

Couldn't read past the paywall...so, no.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago

Congress does what Trump tells the Republicans to. So it's effectively the same thing.

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[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 48 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Wow maybe that latest election had a bigger effect on the GOP thick skulls than anyone realized. It's just taking a bit to sink in.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 73 points 4 days ago (2 children)

No. It is all performative. They still want to end ACA it is just not politically savy at this time. More important to stack courts, wreck government beauracracy, and control elections.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

It’s 2 years. Not permanent. Like his tax cuts to everybody expired after he left office. Except corporate tax cuts. Those were forever.

[–] Kronusdark@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

Everything the government does is a carrot to dangle till the next election. No one cares about making permanent changes anymore.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

It’s 2 years. Not permanent.

Well, we may have a better shot at getting it permenent in 2 years under *barf* president Vance.

[–] Vince@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There doesn't seem to be any rules at this point, why don't they just pass a new bill that's exactly the same and call it trumpcare, or hell just rename the current law?

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Nowhere is it called Obamacare in any official documentation. That's just what right wing media called it to get their reactionaries to hate it without thought.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Right, it’s so much simpler: just start calling it trumpcare. You can put some ceremony around it, let the taco spout word salad onstage, and have a signing ceremony. If the right people tell Trump it was his idea, he’d probably believe it

[–] tallricefarmer@sopuli.xyz 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

'He suggested an act to that effect should be known as “Trumpcare” and claimed it would empower citizens and leave them feeling like entrepreneurs.'

I remember Republicans dubbing ACA as Obamacare derogatorily. But of course Trump wants a Trumpcare

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[–] Taco2112@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago

Anything that helps people with health care is a win but this is another tiny band aid on the leaking dam of American health care. Plus they’re adding stipulations on eligibility.

[–] apftwb@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

And here after I thought Democrats had complete ownership of the-shutdown-was-a-waste-of-effort, Trump swoops in to extends ACA for no reason in capitulation to no one. Showing that Republicans also were fighting for nothing. Clown government.

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[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

This is him extending his power. The president does not legally control the power of the purse. Congress does. The president can't legally do this. Choosing a popular position with the citizens, and one Democrats can't argue against without looking bad, gives him the clear to do this. Once it's done once they can point back to it and ask why no one thought it was wrong this time.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You’re absolutely right and if the repugs were smart they’d oppose this. Because this sets precedent that can be used by both sides so the dems could do the same thing. Well if there are ever more elections….

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Democrats don't have the spine to undo this shit show. They will hold status quo until the GOP can drag us further down.

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[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Where the absolute holy fuck is this fucksticks's fucking healthcare plan? Where is it? It's been ~~1 5~~ 9 years. WHERE IS IT.

[–] glitch1985@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

The concept of a plan.

[–] knobbysideup@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago

Fingers crossed. I already have ACA, but I just had my job cut to less than half time on top of the increased costs. I was going to consider going without.

It's still obnoxious corrupt capitalism at the core though. Burn it all and give us single payer.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

For 2 years. Fucking predicatable.

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Just in time to use a further extension as a political lool for the 2028 election...

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago

I just read another article saying he caved on this. What is the actual situation?

[–] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

An added layer to this shit storm is that the actual deadline for signing up is December 15th because that's when open enrollment ends. After open enrollment, whatever plan you choose (or if you choose to go without), you're stuck with until next year (caveat being that there are some qualifying events like divorce or job change where you're allowed to alter your selection).

So, here we are 3 weeks (actually less than 3 weeks now) out from having to make a final decision, and we're getting inconsistent as well as contradictory information from the federal government. These decisions take a lot of time for us to make, the rules made by the federal government should have been clear and in place well in advance of open enrollment season.

The monthly payment for my current plan is going up close to 50% (comparing non-subsidized price btw), but also comes with higher out-of-pocket expenses (copay, deductibles) and higher maximum out of pocket (lower is better). So, we're getting much less while paying substantially higher rates. Keep in mind, I'm only comparing the unsubsidized cost of the plans, but many people on ACA plans are receiving tax credits (i.e. subsidies) that cover all or part of their current plans. So for those folks who won't get that tax credit anymore, double the cost is probably understating how much more expensive it will be.

This unprecedented rise in expense means a lot of us are looking at the risk versus reward aspect of whether it makes sense to even have health insurance. That's an extremely difficult decision to have to make, then on top of that, for those that decide to stick with an ACA plan, choosing a plan is itself a monumental task with all the considerations and variables you have to keep track of. It takes a lot of time, research, effort and now in the final days of open enrollment, we're not even in a position to make these decisions based on a solid foundation of information -- the rug could be pulled and a wrench thrown in at any moment.

Maybe I'm being overly negative, but it also won't surprise me when these systems go down or have technical issues on the final day(s) because of extreme volume of use due to so many of us having to wait last minute.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What about medicade? They still throwing the elderly and disabled on the street?

[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Those are usually on Medicare. Medicaid is for the poors. So it's just different people getting told to fuck off and die already.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

That’s actually not true medicade covers 63% of people in nursing homes. Nursing homes are not paid for by Medicare. I know this because I had a parent that lost all their assets in 2008 and got to the point they needed nursing care and medicade is extremely difficult unless you have connections to get approved for for nursing care. With close to a trillion cut out of the budget this is going to be so very cruel https://www.ahcancal.org/News-and-Communications/Press-Releases/Pages/Just-The-Facts-Medicaid-Critical-Component-Long-Term-Care-System.aspx

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