And that's why Gabe has a new yacht with a fuckin' submarine.
Goddamn money printer he's got there. No hate, I just can't believe the platform that we had to install to play Counter Strike (1.6?) has become the juggernaut it has.
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God damn did I hate when they introduced that extra fucking bullshit that I had to install just to play CS!
Multiplayer gaming peaked at GameSpy.
Back then Steam was a downgrade.
I wholeheartedly agree, however we are the users who had to suffer through that so they could create what it is today.
I can’t tell you how many times steam would need an update when I wanted to play CS. Some of those nights I just gave up because the stream update was so freaking slow.
I still have my steam-less 1.6 installer somewhere.
Bro, does it still work? I can't imagine it will but if so, give the magnet link.
Can we still play it? I'll 1v1 you later today if we can.
With that weird kick on the jump animation and the totally stupid crouch animation.
I think the disk I have has 1.5 on it but I'd have to check. I'm pretty sure that one is on Archive though.
Been there done that
Still no bloodborne
I'd love to see a breakdown for the split before and after requiring PSN accounts
Likely almost negligible because most people didn't care, with the exception of the vocal minority on the internet. Most average people make a new social media account a few times a year and wouldn't think twice to trivially make another throwaway account just to play their new game.
they still have a lot of stuff on steam i'd purchase if they weren't still trying to get $70 for 5-10 y/o games
Spiderman Remastered is like $23 right now, but took many years to get that low.
Even on sale their second-run PC releases are more expensive than what I would normally tolerate for a new full game. Then there is Stellar Blade, which is also infected with Denuvo malware. They could be doing much better.
I bought pretty much all of them after they removed the login requirement.
Wait what? I thought Sony games on ~~Playstation~~ (Edit: Steam) all require a Playstation account. So this is no longer the case? How long has it been and did I sleep under a rock?
Been a good while now haha
Can't wait for the Playstation store and then Sony comparing how much money they make there. I would be fine with timed exclusivity to their store, but all their games should come to Steam. Without an account requirement or store front on top of it. Then Sony would get my money too.
This $1.2b in Steam sales is cumulative since around August 2020, so a period of just over 5 years. We can say $240m per year on average.
Their last annual financial statement said that they made $2.8b profit for the year ending March 2025 from their "Games and Network Services" division, so subtracting the ~$240m of Steam sales would leave about $2.56b from PS5 and PSN sales.
That's about 90% PS to 10% Steam. It's a nice extra market for them, but it's not make or break.
Money is money. Especially if its only porting over an existing game, that does not require too much money for, as it is in an engine made for this anyway. And it shows there is potential for grows. I don't know about the numbers you just throw in, and how it compares in reality. So not commenting on that. Also the GAmes and Network Services, are these only Sony releases or are there third party games included?
But what we do know is, that some games like Helldivers 2 are far more successful than some other games they have. If the games were put day one on Steam besides the Playstation release, and without requiring Playstation account on first day, it would probably have made more money.
I wouldn't dismiss this as just "nice extra market". Otherwise why would Sony give up the exclusivity of their first party titles? Steam grows rapidly and is already bigger than the Playstation 5 user base will ever be.