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Megyn Kelly questions whether Jeffrey Epstein's desire for “very young teen types” made him a pedophile (www.mediamatters.org)

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[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 44 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Okay conservatives, ask yourself: are those young girls not the very people you seek to protect from the transgender persons? Like, if you're fine with the shit that tRump and Epstein pulled with kids because that level of depravity is suddenly okay, then you must clearly be fine with kids peeing in the stall next to a transgender person or seeing a transgender person wash their hands. After all, seeing a transgender person wash their hands is nothing compared to the now-not-a-risk from the pedophile-in-chief.

Oh, it's never been about protecting children? It's just been about hate?

[–] tym@lemmy.world 8 points 19 hours ago

Hate requires no intelligence to operate. The US has an adultescence problem. Turns out the bystander effect applies to a society's impact on children too. The irony is kids in the US have never been more intelligent or open-minded.. can't have that kind of future competition.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (7 children)

Ephebephilia or possibly hebephilia rather than pedophilia, but the distinction is moot, because non-psychology litterate people mean all minors when they say pedophile.

[–] missingno@fedia.io 26 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Ephebophile (noun): A pedophile with a thesaurus.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 6 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Or a Psychology litterate with the DSM-V

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is one of those technical distinctions where if you're making the distinction, you're already on the wrong side of everything.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca -1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Psychology and precision in language using the diagnostic terminology of the DSM V is on the wrong side of everything?

No one is excusing or belittling anything. People who hurt children must fry.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world -1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, if you're quoting the DSM V to defend yourself as technically not a pedophile, then yes you've crossed the rubicon of decency.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 0 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm not defending anyone from anything. Your repeated, blatent and misguided attempts to mischaracterise what's being said makes me think "He doth protest too much.".

It's the litteral terminology from the diagnostic manual from the APA. You may want to book an appointment.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not suggesting you're doing it specifically. I'm saying generally if you feel the need to make that distinction in your normal day to day life, you're almost certainly a sexual predator.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Or any number of psychology related or adjacent professions, or just well read.

What is really really weird is that you seemingly equivocate ephebephilia and hebephilia as some lesser crime. They are all equally child abuse. There is no lesser crime being implied here. All punishable the same. All irreperably damaging to the victims.

You got some serious issues to work out. Imagine a courtroom where the lawyer present evidence of the accused stabbing someone, then you stand up in the gallery and scream accusing the lawyer of being a murderer because he said the accused stabbed the victim, rather than shot the victim. Ridiculous right? That's what you're doing.

Your saying generally that being correct, accurate and precise with the nature of the crime means the lawyers, judge, medical practitioners testifying and anyone with a loose awareness of standards and terminology are murderers in my analogy.

Did you know there is an entire section in wikipedia on various forms of chronophilia You better report the researchers, the writers of the articles, the publishers of textbooks, the entire psychology profession and anyone who clicked that link for sex crimes against children.

Your bigotry is insane. Get help.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Just like the difference between a scientific theory and a layman's theory!

[–] sheridan@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago

Can't wait to try these words at the next Scrabble game.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Another technical aspect: all of the philias relate to attraction to something, rather than having sex with it.

One could have necrophilia and yet never have sex with a corpse or not have necrophilia and still have sex with a corpse.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 12 points 23 hours ago

Yep. I don't care if he's a pedophile, not, or something else entirely. He is a rapist and child sexual abuser.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 0 points 23 hours ago

And presumably one could have sex with a corpse yet not be attracted to it.

[–] TheBlackLounge@lemmy.zip 2 points 20 hours ago

I'd say there's nothing inherently wrong with any of these. It's the child trafficking and child molestation that's the issue.

[–] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 17 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Conservatives are compelled by cognitive dissonance to argue for this distinction because all the men they know like to ride a very fine legally-defined line.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Not all. Some prefer riding over state lines.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 15 points 18 hours ago

This is this person's view, who was there for a lot of this, but that he was into the barely legal type. Like, he liked 15-year-old girls. And I realized this is disgusting. I'm definitely not trying to make an excuse for this. I'm just giving you facts, that he wasn't into, like, 8-year-olds. But he liked the very young teen types that could pass for even younger than they were, but would look legal to a passerby.

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[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago

Technically... Technically.

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 13 hours ago

One of the girls Trump is accused of raping was 12. Not a teen.

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago

This is preparing for the inevitable release of the Epstein files. Softening the blow by insisting it wasn't pedophilia. They could have made this argument a long time ago but didn't

[–] MyOpinion@lemmy.today 3 points 14 hours ago

Well it sure does if they are under aged which they were.

[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 2 points 19 minutes ago

The difference between a pedophire and hebephile might matter in a clinical setting, if you're a psychiatrist or something. This isn't that. He was a child rapist who sold children to be raped by other rich fuckers. Donald trump was one of those. Trump is a child rapist.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 2 points 3 hours ago

This is the sort of intellectual discussions that you miss out on if you're a woke leftist.

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

"MEGYN KELLY IS PRO-PEDOPHILIA IF THEY'RE OLDER THAN 5 YEARS OLD"

That's the correct headline.

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Pedophiles, by clinical definition are people who are attracted to prepubescent people. That means people who are attracted to simply mid- to late-level teenagers are not pedophiles. Sad as it is to say, post- or mid-pubescent teenagers have already developed adult sexual features and normal adults can be attracted to them.

Sorry, folks. Pedophilia is a real disorder with specific criteria, and it doesn’t align with the casual term we use as “pedophilia,” which is just sexual involvement with people under 18 years old.

[–] SparroHawc@lemmy.zip 3 points 44 minutes ago* (last edited 42 minutes ago)

It does make him an ephebophile though if he preferred them to adults.

And a rapist. Let's not forget that.