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They use the small flash inside the DRM chip in the cartridge to store the telemetry, then the e-waste companies are paid by HP to read and send to the mothership the contents of the chips sent to recycle

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[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This information helps HP design future products to meet our customers' printing needs.

πŸ€”πŸ€”πŸ€” I doubt this very much...

[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 1 points 2 weeks ago

"Future products like our soon to be released torment nexus!"

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There is not a day that goes by that I don't wish open source 2d printers where technically easy to make.

[–] maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't know about being easy to make but it may be easy to buy one soon-ish.

Open Printer (Crowd Supply campaign coming soon).

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net -1 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, I saw that around. It looks really fucking cool, but it still relies on a proprietary print head IIRC.

I don't want to be perfectionist, it is a good step in the right direction, so I do still appreciate the project. I especially appreciate that it uses paper rolls instead.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Those motherfuckers bricked my printer after 100 pages in 2020, presumably for refusing to sign up for their ink subscription. Really pissed me off to have to throw out a perfectly good printer.

I'm never buying another HP product.

[–] JailElonMusk@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago

I also stopped buying HP for a nearly identical reason. My brand new printer was 1 day out of warranty, I had gotten it as a gift unboxed it, and it wouldn't connect to Wi-Fi (had no hardware ports on it only WiFi).

Those fuckers told me I could either:

A. Subscribe to their ink subscription plan and they'd tell me how to fix it.

B. Pay $75 one time and they'd tell me how to fix it.

I threw that motherfucker in the trash that day and then bought a cheap Cannon (no brothers in stock) that still works over a decade later.

Fuck HP completely.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

After many years, I switched from HP to Epson. Back in the days, HP delivered quality, but the last two printers of them that we had showed that this was no longer the case.

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Best way to go is a color laser printer. Brother is usually pretty good in that regard. Buy one and it'll be the last printer you need for decades. I have a Canon multifunction color laser, it was like $500 but that was 10 years ago and it's still on the first set of toner. For someone like me who doesn't print much it's the perfect choice because the ink doesn't dry out like inkjet ink.

Second best choice is a continuous ink feed printer. Epson has one called eco tank, but there are others. Basically instead of cartridges, the ink comes in bottles and you pour it into tanks in the side of the printer. Tubes carry the ink from the side tanks to the printhead. Even the official tanks hold a lot more ink than the similarly priced cartridge, and you can get knock off ink much much cheaper. No DRM, no chips, no telemetry, no bullshit. It's still an inkjet printer with all the downsides that carries, but much less printer manufacturer bullshit.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We now use the Epson Ecotank printers. We don't print enough for a laser printer. And Canon is a brand I will never ever buy again.

[–] Teanut@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I've found lasers to work better for infrequent printing because toner doesn't dry out and clog things like ink does. Does the Ecotank have that issue if it's months between prints?

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Don't know about months. we print once or twice a week, with some spells where we print dozens of jobs on one weekend. But so far we had way less issues than with HP. Occasionally, it did a head clean.

With the last set of cartridges on the HP, they basically went into the head cleaning dump - with a two page color print, the second page lost color, and it needed a deep clean to come back. And returned to the problem when I printed the next batch half an hour later. Basically a 100 quid cardridge set for printing maybe 20-30 pages with color. And it was not even full page color, but a set of 15 cards on a page, each with a small picture of the item.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What morons are buying HP printers?

[–] MrFappy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

My employer for one uses all HP products. They’re the biggest pieces of shit I’ve ever used. I’d rather have an E-machine from 2005

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If it was only that data, it would be relatively innocuous. But they could store anything in there. Maybe they already do, who's going to trust HP anyway?

I kind of understand their idea of being open,but this only works for some companies, and definitely not those with decades of fucking with and abusing their customers. HP is managed by idiots.

[–] Paragone@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Malevolent, machiavellian, sociopathic idiots.

HP's sooo far into the negative trustworthiness side of the number-line, that it's a sickening-shame that no criminal-investigations happen on them, as I simply don't believe that people that molester-nature are entirely-legal in all their doings.

When they began requiring to have people's credit-card-info on-file, in order to be able to USE their printers ( I read in the geek-news, sometime in the last few years ), they murdered integrity from their domain.

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[–] ngdev@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

when you use italics that often, they start to lose meaning and become very annoying

[–] macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

While you are correct about italics, you inability to know that you are supposed to capitalize the first letter of a sentence earned you a down vote. As it is very annoying.

[–] Jumbie@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

While you are correct about italics, you[r] inability to know that you are supposed to capitalize the first letter of a sentence earned you a down vote. [~~As~~] [I]~~i~~t is very annoying.