ranked choice and at least 5 parties will do me just fine. dont speak for me.
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This. With our current system we can't get a third party winning without the republicans becoming a vastly minority party at all levels. Anything like rank choice changes the game.
If someone like AOC or Mamdani ran third party for the, theoretical, next presidential election I would vote for them. Since any third party candidate I would vote for would be unlikely to get large corporate/billionaire donations they should start campaigning now so they have time to build up a grassroots machine to get their message and name out there.
It's your vote. And honestly, presidential elections are meaningless beyond keeping Republicans out currently.
I would much rather see AOC or Mamdami focus on helping to build other state legislatures up as allies. That would be the best way to actually get things done. So much effort is wasted on the presidency. And not spent in the legislature, which is where the fascists have gotten most of their victories from.
Perot received almost 20% of the national popular vote in 1992 and don't win a single electoral vote. There hasn't been a single electoral vote to a 3rd party presidential candidate since 1968. It would take some unbelievably consistent polling showing a massive margin of victory to convince me a 3rd party can win at the state or federal level as long as we have first-past-the-post.
Well Musk is an idiot and a nazi, so.
Yeah, we really don’t need two Nazi parties.
Voters that havnt been poisoned by media want ranked choice voting.
As always: Ranked Choice is a specific use of ranked ballots, and it kinda sucks. You want a Condorcet method like Ranked Pairs.
Say an election goes like this:
40% vote A > B > C.
35% vote C > B > A.
25% vote B > C > A.
Plurality says A wins, because Plurality sucks. You don't even need a bare majority. You just need everybody else to split up.
RCV says C wins: B has the fewest top votes, so they're eliminated. The race becomes 40% A > C versus 60% C > A. Better... but still wrong, because 65% of people would prefer B > C.
Condorcet methods like Ranked Pairs get that right. They model every runoff: A vs B is 40-60, A vs C is 40-60, B vs C is 65-35. B wins every 1v1 and is obviously the best candidate according to these voters. The supermajority prefers B.
And of course Approval Voting is just letting people check multiple names, and it somehow matches Condorcet results when enough people vote. Because you are unique... just like everybody else.
It doesn't matter what voters want, the US election system doesn't care about that.
Ballot reform. Ranked, Approval, Score, whatever.
Otherwise you're wasting your goddamn time.
Yeah I've got no interest in a 3rd party before election reform. Counterproductive.
And abolish the Electoral College.
Cool, but it seems like a stopgap solution at best.
How? Once it passes 270, there's nothing the other states can do about it. It is using the EC to defeat the EC.
Yeah, we want a left-wing party, not a 3rd right-wing party 🤦
A Guillotine Party, mayhaps?
I'll take it if he vote splits and collapses the right
Otherwise ew no
Well then, which billionaire do they want in charge?
An actual worker's party would be good, but you won't get that from Musk.
That photo of Musk looks like he's a follower of Dagon and is transforming into a fish-creature.
No one wants Musk in anything.
A blender. A woodchipper. A thresher. Trash compactor. Vat of acid.
You can't fool me with that vat of acid. I wana see some floating bones to be convinced.
This won't work. I know he's seen Rick and Morty.
Then again, he would be dumb enough to try and use plastic Halloween decoration bones that would dissolve in the acid...
I stand corrected!
"Nearly two in five" is not a good number to bring about any actual change.
Yes we do! Enough of the uni-party system.
You want musk in charge of a third party…?
The guy who seig heil’d orangeboi not once, but twice, on national television, at his inauguration? That fucking guy?
Unpack that for me.
No, I have hated Musk from the beginning. What we need is a viable working class party.
Or just abolish political parties altogether since their entire point is to further empower the powerful.
I do. 3rd parties without election reform just split votes. I'd love to see Musk split the Republican vote.
Is Jimmy Dore still trying to start the people's party?