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[–] illusionist@lemmy.zip 135 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

Looking forward, analysts predict Linux could hit 7% by 2027 if trends continue, driven by AI integrations in distributions like those from Canonical

Sure. That must be the reason.

[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 57 points 2 days ago

Gotta shove AI into everything to prevent the bubble from collapsing.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 2 days ago

certainly not like I specifically switched over to avoid having an AI automatically launch on start-up without my permission.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Glad they mentioned distros to avoid for their AI integration.

[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 5 points 1 day ago

People gagging so hard on the AI dick that they try to reason that people going to open source are doing it for AI... What a world

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago

Yeah Windows better hurry up and get some AI integration!

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 58 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Is it... dare I say it... the year of the Linux desktop?

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 44 points 2 days ago

Well it's fucked now, I thought we all agreed not to say it and see if it made any difference

[–] MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Shhhhhh! You’ll jinx it!

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The year of the linux desktop will only happen if no one said that year is the year of the linux desktop

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[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

🌎👨‍🚀🔫👨‍🚀

[–] mintiefresh@piefed.ca 7 points 1 day ago

Always has been! 🚀🔫

We’ll see at the end of the year. Don’t celebrate too soon.

[–] pressedhams@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I just made the switch on my daily driver yesterday to Endeavor OS! Am I allowed to say I use Arch btw?

[–] illusionist@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 days ago

Yes. It is arch with a calamaris installer.

[–] Addv4@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's based on arch, so technically sure, but be prepared for the pedantry. Ran arch for years, switched to endeavor because it allowed for a basic sway install to rice on pretty easily without having to configure every little thing. Arch is great, but maintenance can get old after a while.

[–] pressedhams@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And I thought technically correct was the best kind of correct. I chose it because SteamOS is an Arch fork so I thought there would be less finagling for games.

[–] Addv4@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Proton and the like should be mostly ok on most Linux distro, the main reason for arch for a lot of people is the AUR and being able to get the latest updates first. It's a bit of a double edged sword, but it rarely is an issue once you get the basics down. That being said make sure to occasionally read the arch wiki, it's often a better resource than just copy pasting forum fixes that might cause other issues or just not work. Hope you enjoy!

[–] storm@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 days ago

The Arch Wiki is easily the most helpful documentation I have used in the switch to Linux. Absolute treasure trove of useful information in an approachable form

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[–] harbard@fedia.io 31 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I’m just bitching, but I had to put windows on one of my machines for the first time in just over 10 years (since I was a kid) and I absolutely fucking hate it. slow ass, bloated, clunky ass OS. garbage software.

[–] PleaseLetMeOut@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Just a tip: If you installed Pro or better you can use Group Policies (gpedit.msc) to strip the OS bloat down slightly more than the Home versions. Education and Enterprise also have the telemetry spyware completely removed. But they have a few extra things you'll probably never use and you'll want to disable (like their terrible Remote Desktop stuff, Work Folders, etc.)

(I dual boot for gaming. So I know the pain.)

[–] dil@piefed.zip 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

im sure most of yall know but it was new to me that you can use some terminal commands while installing to activate pro edition and ms office pro and other stuff fairly easily https://github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts

MAS <3

Bonus: If you use the new TSForge method, it's a permanent hardware registration. Meaning you'll never have to activate Windows again, just connect to the internet and it'll do it's thing when it calls home.

It also has ESU support for Windows 10, so you can register for the extended security updates after it reaches EOL completely free.

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[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Use the IoT LTSC version and install it using Rufus. Zero bloat, very fast, no clunk.

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[–] uawarebrah@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 days ago (4 children)

This is really market share against Microsoft, not Mac. For good reason too, Microsoft is working very hard to ruin their company. They’re losing a lot of ground to Mac as well, especially in the small business sector where many things are web based now anyways. Run an MSP and we’ve had quite a few clients get fed up with inconsistent updates and repeated dumb problems.. looking at you WSD and printing.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh don’t worry. Apple has been working very hard on enshitifyjng their OS. They just don’t get reported on as much as Microsoft.

[–] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I worked for an MSP that supported an all-Mac environment. Got real tired of telling people that their problem was a well-known bug in Mac that Apple has ignored for over 10 years and would probably never be fixed. I had to give that explanation a lot, for many different issues.

At least with Windows people expect problems like that. Mac people refuse to believe anything could possibly be Apple's fault.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

I had a Mac user chew me out for putting on a non-Apple mouse that JUST DOESN'T WORK ON MAC!!!1! Found out that he'd used the non-Apple mouse fine for about a month, then changed his desk to one with a glass top, and wasn't using a mousepad. So the laser just shot through the clear glass and did fuck-all. Didn't even have the decency to look abashed when I tossed a magazine down as a mousepad for him until we could get him some artist-approved mousepad bullshit. Fucking ad agencies are full of twats.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

where many things are web based now anyways

https://xkcd.com/934/

[–] someacnt@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wait, Randall knows about xmonad?

[–] not_woody_shaw@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I don't know about xmonad, but let's assume Randall knows everything.

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[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 14 points 2 days ago

Looking forward, analysts predict Linux could hit 7% by 2027 if trends continue, driven by AI integrations in distributions like those from Canonical

Or rather, by their optionality. Some people want those tools, some don't want to touch them with a 3m pole; Linux can appease to both, unlike Windows is doing.

[–] BigTrout75@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Okay Linux users, no snark about this distro is better than that one. We're all just one happy family.

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[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Can we also have an open source surge against Android, with valid providers in all countries?

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

No, because the "surge" in market share is almost certainly driven not by the average user's love of open source software, but by the average user simply letting their laptop die as they switch to phones and tablets as their sole computing devices. Windows users aren't becoming Linux users. They are becoming Android users.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago

We totally can, but not yet. Postmarket is trying hard AF.

The whole Voice/SMS/VoLTE/DataLTE side of things is proprietary, so they're reverse engineering it, but it's painfully slow. Probably once they crack it open, the industry will try to protect it behind encryption and DRM.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

I personally like Android

What we need is better AOSP

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Dozens of us!!

...but this is actually good news. I'm glad to hear it.

[–] MintyAnt@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

I am the 5%!!

[–] eddanja@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

Thanks Microsoft!

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Here is as close as I could find to the source data. Unfortunately, everything is listed in terms of "market share" which is great for "back slaps for the boys", but less great for generating hypotheses for actual causes. What I would like is the raw numbers - what were the total devices for each OS?

My bets for what are driving this change, from least to most likely:

  • Least likely: the average user, who is a lazy dumbass and knows nothing about OS's, has educated themselves on open source operating systems and has decided to throw off the shackles of their corporate, closed-source overlords, and installed a complicated operating system they've never used before onto their home desktop/laptop (which they never use) using a flash drive (which is hidden in the junk drawer where they haven't seen it for 7 years).
  • Some small tech-based businesses switched from windows to unix-based systems for their desktops. Mostly, this means now everyone is using MacBooks, but they gave in to a few developers who wanted linux-based machines.
  • Existing Linux users are finding the platform more stable for a daily driver, and are letting their windows machines go dark as the need to use them diminishes.
  • Steam deck (caveat - does this count as a desktop OS? I kinda doubt it.)
  • This has nothing to do with Linux. Windows users aren't switching to open source operating systems. They are switching to mobile devices. The average user is simply leaving their windows home laptop in the closet somewhere, and without even noticing, has transitioned to using phones and tablets as their sole devices for day to day computing. Windows isn't really losing market share to Linux - it is losing market share to Android and iOS. Usage of windows machines drops off because windows is an operating system for average users, who don't care about computers that much. Linux users, on the other hand, are much more likely to be "computer people" who like to do things like develop software - a task which can only really be accomplished in a desktop environment. So the total number of Linux desktops stays stable, while the number of windows machines drops off -> "increased" Linux market share.
[–] panicnow@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Here is a different (in my opinion probably better) source: https://analytics.usa.gov/

It also shows Linux above 5%. I agree that most people are switching to phone and/or tablet, but: the total devices are increasing AND the total number of phone/tablet devices are increasing AND the linux share is increasing

I would expect that as the denominator (all devices which includes an ever increasing number of phone/tablet) increases that Windows, mac and linux would decrease. I am surprised (and happy) that Linux is increasing!

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[–] guywithoutaname@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I think a big part of this is PC builders choosing an OS. There is so much content on YouTube about switching to Linux, and people have experience with the Steam Deck as well, which also factors in.

[–] emb@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I wonder if SteamDeck counts toward desktop share here? It kinda is a desktop OS, even though it's mainly used on a handheld device. Either way, I think that contributes a lot to normalization and stability of the ecosystem, if not device count.

The big factor though is probably just a shrinking market. For people that aren't computer nerds or businesses, it's getting less likely they own a laptop or desktop, and more likely they think their phone is good enough.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago

They count by website traffic so probably not, no.

[–] emn316@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

Only if Steam Decks are being counted by StatCounter

[–] someacnt@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

I was wondering if Linux would break 5% in global stats. Can I expect that? I am still not sure.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago

That's me now! Yayyy!

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Are they counting Steamdecks?

Or what is the scope?

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