inside of all of us are two wolves.
except Mozart, he had like ten or twelve.
That's why he's Wolfgang.
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Didn't wolves and dogs descend from a shared ancestor, not dogs from wolves?
Nope, genetically wolves and dogs are basically identical. Dogs are simply hundreds of generations of domesticated wolves.
A Wikipedia scan by a layman (me) seems to say that is something that happened after their divergence from a common ancestor.
The dog's similarity to the grey wolf is the result of substantial dog-into-wolf gene flow,[3] with the modern grey wolf being the dog's nearest living relative.
The dog is a wolf-like canid.[7][8][9] The genetic divergence between the dog's ancestor and modern wolves occurred between 20,000 and 40,000 years ago, just before or during the Last Glacial Maximum[2][1] (20,000–27,000 years ago). This timespan represents the upper time-limit for the commencement of domestication because it is the time of divergence but not the time of domestication, which occurred later.
You are correct. The ancestor of the modern dog is a now-extinct gray wolf different from the ones around today.
How is that an upper-limit for domestication?
Couldn't, theoretically, domestication of the ancestor wolves cause the divergence?
The same article says they are the same species (different subspecies) 🤷♂️.
One could theoretically create a Chihuahua/wolf hybrid. Imagine a 150lb. wolf with the brains and attitude of a Chihuahua. The mind boggles.
Chihuahuolf.
Wolfhuahua
Chiwolfhua.
Dogs and wolves are the same specie - just a different subspecie. A Chihuahua could breed with a wolf.
Christ, what spawn of hell that pairing would make.
Hopefully a chihuahua-sized wolf and not a wolf-sized chihuahua.
As I understand it yes, but that's why I said it was an oversimplification in my post.
I believe that, in reality, wolves domesticated themselves. They started hanging around humans because it was a mutually beneficial arrangement.