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[–] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world 195 points 1 day ago (9 children)

If you hate Musk…stop using fucking twitter. Nothing grinds my gears more than all these leftists who are still fully addicted.

[–] cv_octavio@piefed.ca 53 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Especially when "just not using it" requires no effort and is literally one if the healthiest things you could do for yourself. Hard to sympathize with anyone grousing so hard while still mainlining the thing they're grousing about.

[–] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Addictions require effort to quit, regardless of what it is.

[–] cv_octavio@piefed.ca 1 points 15 hours ago

"I'm addicted to being an online asshole" is a tricky one for me to muster sympathy for in the cockles of my heart.

It may very well be that I'm not cut out for the role of cult deprogrammer. 

[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Every time I said this, I get downvoted.

People on here get really weird about and start downvoting and insulting people who call it X, because they refuse to accept the stupid new name... What are you clinging on to? Twitter is DEAD.

Yes, the new name, X is stupid. It's now the Nazi platform X, accept that and stop using the Nazi platform. Your line in the sand is way further back than it should be, you can't keep using the platform and insist you're giving the finger to Elon by calling it Twitter.

Stop using Twitter, accept that Twitter is dead. Stop using the Nazi platform.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Twitter was always terrible and I've never had an account to quit, so the whole "Twitter is dead, call it X to respect the dead" argument doesn't work for me. I will how ever continue to deadname twitter so long as Musk continues to deadname his daughter.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I've gotten pushback from places I really wouldn't have imagined for saying that we all need to kill our social media, starting with Twitter.

I do not care if you keep a facebook account open just to talk to your dear aunt Ethel over the holidays but PLEASE, Lemmy lefties... speaking directly at you right now.

DO NOT KEEP USING TWITTER.

When you use twitter you generate views for other things, those views translate into monetary rewards for people in other countries who have been paid to destabilize your country. You are not saving anyone, you're not helping anyone. It's a half-dead platform that empowers some of the worst people in the world.

"But people use it in other countries to organize resistance and several other excuses that make me sound addicted!"

I do not care. They have other means. You're not a revolutionary. Just put it away and spend that scrolling time walking and meeting people and reading about local progressive candidates in your area you can back and support and actually make a fucking difference instead of trying to get your twitter arguments clipped and shared on reddit.

[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I do not care if you keep a facebook account open just to talk to your dear aunt Ethel over the holidays

I do care. Aunt ethel got used to twitter, she got used to facebook, she got used to messenger when they forced that switch... she can get used to signal/matrix/xmpp or whatever else you desire.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

Oh I would advocate for learning to pick up the goddamn phone and just calling your family members and saying hi, but that is such a lost art that I don't even try to recommend it to younger people who don't even know what the number-pad on their phones is for.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

But it's the only place I get the daily recipes I want or some shit

[–] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

To be fair…the site link is literally still Twitter.

[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No it's not... They kept the domain because it costs $8/year and it would be incredibly stupid to let it go, even for Elon.

But it forwards to x.com

[–] SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Do I get bonus cred for having never used it? I don't use X, or Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, TikTok, whateverthefuck.

I have a Lemmy and Youtube... and before you get all "why not peertube???" because peertube sucks. Sorry, someone has to say it, it's not there yet, content is subpar.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yea I have no clue why people still use the damn platform. Especially those who hate musk and what bullshit that comes from his mouth...like gtfo the platform, all you're doing is keeping his revenue going.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because they fucking suck.

It just floors me the kind of excuses they come up with.

Same with leftists still buying Tesla. Which is still a fucking lot.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Honestly I figured his shit would tank, most of the magats are on trumps platform now, and we know magats weren't buying tesla cars...so who's buying and using his shit...the same people who hate him. Like wtf, they literally have the power to remove a ton of his wealth, but nope.

[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 16 hours ago

Tesla is a pretty clear example of what's 'wrong' with stocks as a capital/market correcting factor. The value of a stock is solely dependent on what people think it's worth, and meme stocks go uuuuuup!

[–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Or better yet, if you're a government: stop using it yourself and destroy it for being unlawful.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

“Why is the world this way?” says the blue checkmark Tweeter clutching their phone.

Though to be fair, many are more disingenuous cash farming influencers.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

if any leftists is in the nazi platform, they aren't leftists.

[–] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wish we could say that - but those terminally online leftist “influencers” like Kyle Kukinski are completely addicted to it.

[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Then he isn’t really a leftist. He is a grifter who uses left wing talking points.

[–] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I wouldn’t say he’s a grifter…he’s definitely got leftist credentials…but he’s also terminally online and really cares about “clout”.

I’m sure he would argue that he’s fighting fire with fire…and I agree with that to an extent: we need somebody operating in those spaces to provide an alternative. But he’s not just reposting content there…he’s genuinely addicted. If he were to be making a coherent argument to remain on Twitter…every single post he makes should include a tagline to a competing platform where you can read his entire post until he’s banned.

If you claim to be a journalist you don’t actually need to be on Twitter…you can just use an aggregator.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

if you sit in a table with 9 Nazis, there are 10 nazis at the table.

My cats breath smells like cat food.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

Dude quit trying to soften it. He's a Nazi enabler.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 14 hours ago

But where else can you toxically brow beat people who do not agree with you?

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The thing is, quitting X is something people can actually do. The core tenet of leftism is to viciously attack any actual leftward action in favour of endless wanking about a glorious revolution that will make everything better for ever and ever. Anything that could produce actual results in the here and now and which doesn't involve a bloody civil war followed by mass executions must be wholeheartedly opposed.

…and it’s so easy

There nothing more irritating than listen to Krystal Ball complain about how Elon ruined groups chats, or whatever she’s addicted to on Twitter…then immediately afterwards platform a leading leftist activist who also uses it.