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[–] diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

It seems like everyone has already forgotten how he introduced gambling to kids.

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 16 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

nahhh, lootboxes existed before CS:GO or TF2. and neither was supposed to be for kids in the first place! card games like MTG were one of the first mass created to use those mechanics

you know what was supposed to be for kids, had (& still has) lootboxes galore and other predatory monetisation tactics? Wizard101 (2008)

i don't see many people complaining about MtG or Wizard101, but folks love to point out how Gaben did a bad thing by taking something that was already a concept (that people liked) and making it digital, whereby he accidentally created something he could never uncreate

[–] audible_obituary@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I have to disagree. Loot boxes definitely existed before CS:GO and TF2, but Valve has still been really predatory about it, dodging regulation and refusing to seriously address the issues in CS for years now. The recent update they did that cut down the CS market was a step in the right direction but far too late imo.

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

still doesn't change the fact that that's not a game for kids, and the adults for whom that game was made can make as many bad decisions with their money as they can afford

i'm not in favour of gambling for children don't get me wrong, in fact i was once a victim of it (thanks to wizard101, a game advertised as and marketed for children), but Valve just did not enage in that. if a child is playing a game that's clearly marked "M" or "PEGI 18" then it's the parents' responsibility to figure out if its something appropriate for their child

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