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Several teams of female gamers have dropped out of the Dead by Daylight Women's World Cup after trans women were banned.

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[–] Punk_face@lemmy.zip 108 points 2 days ago (9 children)

What the hell does gender have to do with gaming?!? There is no inherently gender-based advantage on either end! So stupid…

[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 95 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I can see having a women’s league being valuable to foster a safe space outside of the misogynistic dude bro culture that’s so prevalent in gaming, but that’s a space trans women need access too just as much if not more than cis women.

[–] JillyB@beehaw.org 23 points 1 day ago

Exactly. I know chess has women-only events and open events. There is no men's event. There just wouldn't be any women if a space weren't dedicated to women. The culture is so male dominated that it's needed with no respect to advantage. I imagine e-sports is the same way.

The goal is to eliminate trans people by isolating them and excluding them from society.

[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 22 points 2 days ago

Being male is a huge advantage when gaming - I don't know how I'd even game without both hands on the keyboard and controlling the mouse with my dick.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 17 points 1 day ago

It's similar to women's only chess championships. Think of it sort of like an affirmative action type of thing, where the misogyny that's prevalent in a particular pursuit causes women to be disproportionately underrepresented.

That makes this decision even more galling to me.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah, this is infuriating.

I did Karate for a decade, went to a number of tournaments, and I'm a giant gamer dork.

Yes, in combat sports, there are legitimate arguments one can make that defining some kind of category delineation based on bone/muscle density from your biology makes roughly as much sense as weight classes... though I can say that only time I have ever been actually, fully KO'd was from a woman, roughly the same age/weight as myself, landing a roundhouse kick directly on my temple (side of my head).

But... keyboard combat? No. Makes no fucking sense at all.

Basically its because our gender is shit and ruins everything.

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Well you see, trans women something something g shoulder orientation something something angle of neck relative to the monitor so obviously there's just too much of an advantage.

They're an average of 1.6 seconds faster at their 4pools than cis women.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

Coding socks constitute an inherently unfair advantage, skirts allow too great a level of thermal regulation, rofl.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Probably a similar reason to why there are tournaments and ranking systems exclusive to women in chess. From my understanding, there are far fewer women in chess than men, more hurdles for women in chess and less opportunity for them to thrive and reach their full potential. Many may have started later and were generally less encouraged to pursue chess, likely resulting in less time spent playing chess from a younger age. Therefore there are events exclusive to women in an effort to create a more balanced competitive environment that isn't dominated by men who were placed in front of a chess board and cheered on since they were in diapers.

[–] SorryQuick@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In theory there aren’t, but at the top of basically all esports and even games like chess, there are no women. Why is that? Are men more competitive?

[–] Soulg@ani.social 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Typically I think men are more competitive and just more likely to pursue things to the degree and extent it takes to become world class in chess for example. It's not an issue of inherent ability as much as the potential pool of people being smaller