this post was submitted on 06 Dec 2025
363 points (98.1% liked)
Leopards Ate My Face
8295 readers
653 users here now
Rules:
- The mods are fallible; if you've been banned or had a post/comment removed, please appeal.
- Off-topic posts will be removed. If you don't know what "Leopards ate my Face" is, try reading this post.
- If the reason your post meets Rule 1 isn't in the source, you must add a source in the post body (not the comments) to explain this.
- Posts should use high-quality sources, and posts about an article should have the same headline as that article. You may edit your post if the source changes the headline. For a rough idea, check out this list.
- For accessibility reasons, an image of text must either have alt text or a transcription in the post body.
- Reposts within 1 year or the Top 100 of all time are subject to removal.
- This is not exclusively a US politics community. You're encouraged to post stories about anyone from any place in the world at any point in history as long as you meet the other rules.
- All Lemmy.World Terms of Service apply.
Also feel free to check out:
Icon credit C. Brück on Wikimedia Commons.
_portrait.jpg){kind=link}
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Your following paragraphs don't really explain what the rational reasoning is, just that it's required. What are they?
I tried to make sense of that, uh, word salad, and kinda boiled it down to this:
And if that's OP's point, well, I think the past year has proved that it's not true. The system of fascism is not vulnerable to solidarity and tolerance. In 2024, vulnerable voters rejected the idea that they are vulnerable and did not vote accordingly. Instead they looked at even more vulnerable people and said "Well at least I'm not that guy! That'll never happen to me because I'm not (insert prejudice here)."
We can blame the propaganda machines of Fox and Facebook and Joe Rogan, and they deserve their share of the blame, but I firmly don't believe Trump voters were merely duped. I think they already believed in a social hierarchy where, among their few luxuries, they get to look down on other people. They came to America, in their eyes the most powerful country on the planet, so regardless of how they got there, they were already more special than their homeland counterparts. They carried with them their prejudices, their views on women, their views on crime, homelessness, and joblessness, and conservative media tapped into those beliefs to form the backbone of their disinformation campaign.
In short, they didn't "adopt" anything, they brought their own nascent bigotry with them.
having interacted with some in these communities, living around them and having my kids go to school with them, your comment here is so on point. it is constantly a shock when you see bigotry pop up so casually and i think to myself those who want you out of this country are using the exact same language.
As I read it, their argument is that fascism can only be sustained if a sizable number of people who would suffer under fascism actively support it.
If only the tiny minority of elites that benefits from fascism actually supported it, it wouldn't be near the level of popularity necessary to be sustainable.