You are saying that person B is not allowed to date person A, even if both adults consent to enter a relationship, because one of those parties can be sent to jail for the crime of entering into a private consensual adult relationship.

Ergo, you have removed the ability of both parties to have a mutually consensual relationship of their choosing.

You haven't even left the confines of Lemmy, and you're already running headfirst into unintended consequences.

[–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net -3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

You replied to yourself and meant to reply to this comment:

Not once did I suggest all adults and I never suggested licensing. Re-read.

Condition. For. Probation. Or. Incarceration. That’s the nuance and it’s not “rhetorical flair”. You misread or you are in bad faith.

Such a system already exists in some individual people’s terms for probation and adults don’t need to get a license.

Probation is an established system. You suggested licensing I'm not engaging with you anymore because that's not my argument. It's your spin.

[–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Just because I'm pointing out just some of the deeply unjust and inherent flaws in your proposal, doesn't mean it's spin.

You realize that you're not making these arguments on a libertarian forum, right?

The vast majority of us here are left wing and not inherently opposed to the concept of government or regulation, yet the vast majority of us here seem very much opposed to your ideas.

Just some food for thought.

[–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net -2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Just because I’m pointing out just some of the deeply unjust and inherent flaws in your proposal, doesn’t mean it’s spin.

You are saying I'm suggesting it affect "all adults". That's false, I gave a very specific example and circumstance for which this could be applied. Probation officers manage almost all aspects of those they are monitoring that are on probation and all adults don't need to abide by that system.

You realize that you’re not making these arguments on a libertarian forum, right?

Are you seriously suggesting I am a right-wing libertarian for suggesting that there be terms for probation after somebody domestically abuses somebody, especially repeat offenders? Have you ever known somebody on probation or a violent offender and have experience with the systems they go through to reenter society?

The restrictions can be quite harsh and I don't agree with all of them, but therapy and preventing abuse is desirable after somebody is released from incarceration (and during) for domestic violence.

The vast majority of us here are left wing and not inherently opposed to the concept of government or regulation, yet the vast majority of us here seem very much opposed to your ideas.

They saw your spin and took you at face-value. I'm not hurt.