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[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 31 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Please be a nice bubble and pop soon, AI.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Stupid question: if you think it's a good idea but don't know when the price will go up, you just buy stock and wait. But if you think it's a bad idea and don't know when the price will go down, is there any long-term alternative to shorting that doesn't require betting on the date?

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

That's a good question I dont have an answer to. Maybe there are ways to short where you can just hold, but I dont know how. Maybe there's a way to borrow lots of RAM and GPUs, sell them, then buy them back when the price drops and sell them for cheap back to whom you borrowed. But I dont know who would make that deal.

[–] TotallyHuman@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago

You can hold a short position by repeatedly borrowing more stock -- but you run the risk of running out of money completely, because short positions have (theoretically) infinite downside risk.

[–] TotallyHuman@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago

If you imagine it like making a bet, nobody's going to take a bet with you where they pay you when it pops, but there's no time after which you pay them -- because they'd never get any money out of that bet. Buying stock is different because it's a thing you can own, but you can't invest in the idea of something failing, because there isn't any business which will take your money and make something more likely to fail.

You could buy every stock except AI-related stocks, which I believe is functionally equivalent to buying an index fund and shorting AI stocks based on the percentage of AI stocks in the index fund. You could also think about what businesses would do well (or less poorly) in the case of an AI-instigated crash, and then buy those.