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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 59 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (7 children)

MAGA never really liked Catholics anyway. They only liked their votes, because these same bishops have turned many US Catholics into single-issue voters on Abortion, which directly enabled the current Federal assault on these immigrant parishioners. Most of MAGA is Protestant and Evangelical, and sees Catholicism as only a step or two removed from a cult.

And you know how the article references that this is the first "special statement" that the bishops released in 12 years? I looked it up, that statement 12 years ago was railing against the HHS mandate to fund contraception, in the name of "religious freedom".

It is tragic what is happening to their parishioners right now, but the bishops can only blame themselves. They directly advocated for politicians who are now actively targeting their people.

[–] handsoffmydata@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

It is tragic what is happening to their parishioners right now, but the bishops can only blame themselves. They directly advocated for politicians who are now actively targeting their people.

Tell me you don’t understand Catholicism without telling me you don’t understand Catholicism. If there is any Christian church that doesn’t advocate for specific politicians it’s the Catholic Church.

The special message from the U.S. bishops has no call to action outside of calling for care, well treatment and prayer for immigrants in the U.S.

Special Message

I can tell you exactly how this special message will impact church going American Catholics. The Sunday mass following the message will include in its Prayer Intentions something like “we join the call of the U.S. bishops to recognize the humanity in all people, regardless of immigration status. We pray to the Lord”, and the parishioners will reply whether listening or not “Lord hear our prayer.”

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

If there is any Christian church that doesn’t advocate for specific politicians it’s the Catholic Church.

Really? They have no problem publicly disciplining specific Catholic politicians over their votes

[–] handsoffmydata@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 hours ago

I really like the sources you provided:

NPR:

After debate last year about whether Communion should be denied to Catholics who support abortion rights, including politicians, U.S. bishops decided not to implement such a policy and instead urged Catholics veering from church teachings to refrain from taking Communion

Wikipedia

In 2008, a minority of American bishops supported denying communion to pro-abortion rights Catholic legislators … These statements of intent from church authorities have sometimes led American Catholic voters to vote for candidates who wish to ban abortion… While there was thus disagreement among the bishops about the opportuneness of refusing the Eucharist to Catholic politicians promoting legalization of abortion, there was unanimity regarding the moral obligation of Catholic politicians who participate in what their Church considers a seriously sinful action to refrain from going to Communion

My takeaway is some Catholics may have been influenced by the opinion of individual bishops, but the church has been quick and consistent in its messaging that in regard to abortion and communion their request is: if you had an abortion, please don’t take communion if you haven’t confessed and asked for forgiveness. (This is the same request they’d ask for what they’d consider any mortal sin.)

It certainly doesn’t seem to suggest the Church is advocating for specific politicians, like my comment you originally replied to mentions.

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