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I can't vouch for the author at all, but this seems like a nice detailed, technical look at the difference between the two.

TL;DR the 212CD is very good at what in biology would be called "sit and wait predation". It's designed to sneak into an ocean floor crevice and hang out there, possibly for for weeks until something comes by, and then attack it. The Hanwha offering, on the other hand, is less superlatively stealthy and maneuverable, but is much more flexible, allowing missile launches and likely having a much longer range.

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[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

such pure disgusting treason. Everyone responsible for this analysis needs to be labeled as a traitor or at least fired.

these subs will be expected to deploy far into the North Atlantic with NATO and push across the Pacific to support the Indo-Pacific Strategy

The only mission any Canadian military equipment procurement strategy needs to focus only on defending and attacking the US. If we need a sub, it is to destroy American harbours, and blockade any commerce or oil rigs. All concepts of aiding US domination of the world must be suspended until we at very least get our fair share in the evil pillaging.

It's great that we are building a large VW engineered battery factory. If we need subs, the German coastal one is the choice, and if it is purchased, the money should be reinvested into a VW EV plant. If we don't need subs because we don't understand a need to fight/destroy the US, then we should use the money to make an EV plant.

[–] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The guy should get fired from his own blog? Lol.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

It's not just treason to recommend submarines for US force amplification, its treason to recommend expensive boondoggle nuclear subs.

[–] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

And it's literally Hitler to leave hyperbolic comments online. /s

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Focusing on only a single country is, simply put, stupid.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Really absurd. Any countries that Canada should invade? There are no other countries than US who will invade us.

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Russia would be the other option that Canada needs to keep in mind.

[–] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

China, maybe even India if the Khalistan stuff gets out of hand.

Like, the US is by far the main threat directly to us right now, but it's a big world and a long future.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 0 points 19 hours ago

Canada is too far away to have any concerns, but you probably meant that we have a need to believe all US initiated propaganda on Russia, and we have a need to diminish it with submarines. Doing so will have massive rewards trickle down to us.