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Nobody in this thread seems interested in saving lives. It is entirely an argument over territorial control
Giving a country with a track record of violating treaties as long as Russia's anything that lets them feel like they gained from the war in return for a treaty saying they'll stop the war is going to cost more Ukrainian lives than continuing to fight, even to the last man. All a peace treaty like that achieves is vindicating Russia's decision to violate the last treaty. It doesn't stop the war, just pauses it while Russia rearms, so it can be even bloodier when it resumes than it would have been if it hadn't paused. If Ukraine can't make Russia lose, more Ukrainians (and more citizens of Russia's other neighbours who are at risk of being next in line) survive if they make Russia's victory pyrrhic so they learn that it isn't profitable to invade their neighbours again.
Not One Inch: America, Russia, and the Making of Post–Cold War Stalemate
A good book and worth a read, if you're genuinely curious at the history leading to the current crisis.
But it's a hard read for anyone who believes history started in 2014
What? I'm here telling you that if you want to save lives, don't capitulate to the country killing everyone.
As any child knows, if you let a bully take your lunch money they're just going to come back tomorrow.
That hasn't proven out over the last 3 years. The death toll in Ukraine has significantly outrun every other Russian conflict since WW2.
When you think like a child, you get the results to match