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[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 61 points 4 days ago (36 children)

Apple announced a game without securing distribution rights first? Seems a bit shady on Bungie's part for letting them, and negligent on Apple's.

Also, if we want to paint the narrative that a potential future of Apple in gaming was stolen by Microsoft, wouldn't that put Apple in the perfect position now to hit back? They've been toying with the idea of bringing gaming to macOS, but they seem to want someone else to do the heavy lifting. On Linux you have Proton, and on macOS we had Whisky, but the guy threw in the towel when he realised another company was making a commercial product out of it, he didn't want to take away from the work they were doing. (To be fair, they had been at it longer.) But it seems like if Apple wants to be serious about gaming, they need to build something like Proton. Maybe they should buy Crossover and make it part of macOS. Let just any Mac user run games made for Windows. But I'm also not saying non-gamer Mac users should bear any part of the cost of gaming, but something gotta give somewhere.

Microsoft is screwing up by running people off of Windows when PC building costs are at record highs and the economy is so low, and running up the price of the Xbox due to a situation they had a hand in creating (the AI bubble). While Linux will be a better target for people with perfectly good computers who don't want to build a whole new one to satisfy Windows 11's requirements, anyone looking at the end of the life of their gaming PC should be looking at the M4 Mac mini at $500 and at least considering it. And Apple can help them make that decision by appealing to gamers and actually being serious about it. Because if fucking Apple of all companies starts taking gaming seriously, maybe Microsoft will again, too.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Wait, of all the tech companies in the world, you specifically chose Apple for the "don't want to throw perfectly good computers" line? The same Apple that every single year is routinely removing perfectly good computers from the newest MacOS compatibility list using same bullshit/fake requirements as Microsoft did with Windows 11?

"Don't want to throw your 8 years old 7th gen Intel PC because Windows 10 is EOL? Buy a new Mac and throw it after 6-7 years when MacOS is EOL for your device!"

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

My 3rd generation iPad became functionally useless after only 6-7 years even though the hardware was pristine. Almost half of the apps on it, including some major ones like YouTube, started refusing to run because they had a mandatory Update, and the App Store wouldn't provide updates for the newest iOS version that the 3rd gen could support.

Meanwhile my Windows laptop that I bought at the same time is still in service after 12 years. Windows going out of support just means you don't get the security updates; Apple going out of support means they'll brick your machine.

Fuck Apple to infinity.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

It is exactly why I'm an apple hater, as an owner of an iPad mini and Intel iMac. Both are basically bricks.

The iPad can't even be used to browse websites because Apple it's so magnanimous to tie browser updates to the operating system. Once the os is EOL, the browser is EOL, and all the third party browsers too, as Apple forces devs to use the system browser as engine (= Firefox, Chrome for iOS basically are glorified Safari skins). Apps for iOS almost all require the latest version and you can't download a previous version unless you have a Time machine and you press download before the cutoff. Imagine on Android if apps required Android 15 and greater. Instead most of them can still run on Android 10 and even earlier.

The iMac, despite being a 4th gen Intel with dedicated AMD GPU, it's also a brick. Every app (including Firefox, Chrome, etc) requires a recent MacOS version (here devs aren't targeting latest and greatest, but still is annoying). Of course Apple still ties Safari updates on the operating system. Imagine on PC if apps required Windows 11 24H1. Because newer versions of MacOS don't have the driver for my dedicated GPU, they can't be tricked to install a newer version (I tried, it's unbearable to use MacOS without GPU acceleration, with all that eye candy it's a must have)

At least the iMac could run a different operating system... Debian shows a black screen and I would need an external monitor, Arch somehow turns off the USB ports on the back and I can't use keyboard and mouse... I have to use Windows 10....

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