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[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The way networking has developed is honestly embarrassing. We shouldn't have to have cgNAT or any of the other problems that come with how we've broken the end to end principle, and it's made us reliant on centralized Services when there's absolutely no technical reason why that ever had to be the case

[–] dan@upvote.au 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thankfully CGNAT isn't as common in the USA as it is in other countries. In the US, ISPs generally either offer native IPv4 (most of the major ones), or only use IPv6 and provide IPv4 at all. The latter is the case with a lot of the mobile carriers, especially T-Mobile. Your phone only gets an IPv6 address, and their network uses 464XLAT to connect to legacy IPv4-only servers.

[–] vividspecter@aussie.zone 1 points 7 hours ago

Most ISPs that do use CGNAT also offer ipv6 in Australia at least. The problem is that there is always that one client network that only supports ipv4 so you end up needing to support dual stack one way or another. Most of these ISPs also support CGNAT opt out for free at least, but I suspect that will go away in the medium term (and maybe that will encourage more universal ipv6 rollout).