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[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Im not specifically invested in making people stop using it, but I think most people dont know and theres really no need to use the one word invented by racists when theres literally hundreds of synonyms.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

you're getting mad at the wrong thing, everyone knows what MJ is weed, and they dont see it as a racist thing used to describe someone.

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Literally not mad, just trying to inform. In my experience many people here make an effort not to use racist language, I at least would appreciate people telling me when I use such words without knowing.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I could dive into any one of a hundred thousand different aspects of our daily life and society that has roots in some form of oppression or hate or violence. Our society is built upon a mountain of skulls.

We all know this, and we move on. We cannot change how we got here, we cannot undo the harm of the past by changing our language. The vast, vast majority of english-speaking people will tell you this: it does not matter the origin of a thing nearly as much as how that thing is used here and now. Marijuana is not used to signal anything or to harm anyone, UNLESS YOU MAKE IT.

You are not raising awareness, you are raising a spectre of hate behind a word that has become disarmed and it serves no purpose other than a desire to see that spectre for some reason.

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I wouldnt say that it has no meaning anymore. Maybe not for you and many others, but weed still has a bad reputation with a lot of people and Im sure if you ask older folks some will tell you the Mexicans brought the devils lettuce to the US.

Be that as it may, some people (like me) just dont like using words that were invented purely as a tool for racist propaganda. Why are so many of you so invested in making me stop informing people about this? I would not have wanted the person who told me first to just shut up about it because others convinced them its not worth pointing out.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You are contradicting yourself here. Either you don't care if people use it, or you do care and want people to use different words. You brought it up so have a stance.

OR, we could direct this energy at actual targets like the people trying to take away all of our rights and actually bring back racism and bigotry as law.

If you just wanted to point it out like some kind of trivia and educate people, but don't want to sound like you're lecturing or advocating for something dumb, you need to reformat your original comment in a different way so it's not prescriptive or suggesting anything is wrong with saying it now since it doesn't actually bother most people.

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I dont see a contradiction. Not everything a person says is meant to make other people do things. We are in a progressive bubble where I assume most people make an effort to not use racist language and when I see someone using it I inform them about it and however they use that information is up to them.

How would you suggest I reword it? English is not my first language and it didnt seem pushy to me.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 0 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Im not specifically invested in making people stop using it

You said this, but you're STILL trying to defend your stance that we should not use the word. It's not a matter of if you're being pushy, it's WHAT you're pushing.

In this case, do you REALLY want to see progressives in these spaces divide up into camps arguing if the word is safe to say or not? Do you think everyone will just "work it out" between each other? Have you any clue how these issues harm progressive movements?

I am literally half thinking you might be a bad-faith plant or provocateur, even Lemmy has them.

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

I never said you specifically should not use it. I said I dont see the need. And if others who read this also feel the same way, they might make the decision to stop using it. It amazes me how defensive people got, it was not my intention at all to make people feel bad. I just wanted to get the info out. Kind of feels like when people get mad at the sentence "I dont eat meat". Like "How can you be so condescending", "Why do you force your ideals on us".

Its a bit funny that all of you keep accusing me of "dividing people into camps" and "starting useless discussions", while all I wrote was a neutral piece of information which could have stood on its own. The answers though, I feel like theyre very much trying to divide people into camps.