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There is perennial discussion about what fediverse servers (Lemmy or otherwise) to recommend to new users. I have a proposal, perhaps not very original but I haven't seen it made often.

Let's just recommend that newbies pick an instance that is located close to them geographically. That's to say: their country, their region, or (ideally) their town.

Some context. Personally, I am not totally sold on social media, federated or otherwise. The evidence is now pretty clear that it causes major social harms. One way it does this is by fuelling polarization around hot-button national and international debates, at the expense of local issues. Reviving democracy is going to mean boosting communities at a local level. This could be a small way to do that.

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[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (19 children)

There currently aren't many of those.

Due to the rate of federation being limited by latency, instances have actually been re-locating to mostly Europe, so they can more easily keep up with each other.

Basically, every federated event needs to propagate, but the next one can't be sent out before the last one is received and an aknowledgement comes back.

That means a higher latency makes an instance federate at a lower rate, causing it to fall behind. Eventually, some instances were having activity from .world show up with days of delay due to being on the other side of the world.

But since your point is mostly ideological/cultural, that doesn't really matter. You're talking about identity, not infrastructure.

Which kinda defeats your point. Geography doesn't matter. You can set up a finnish community on a swedish instance and vice versa.

And I'm not sure what you mean by "reviving democracy".

The fediverse is explicitly NOT democratic. It's run by a large group of benevolent dictators (admins and mods) who maintain the environment they and the users of their respective instances and communities desire.

They are kept in line not by votes, but by the fact that any one of them can be defederated by the rest, and they can all be supplanted by any one user with the desire to set up their own instance or community.

The reason Lemmy doesn't have local communities, is not structural. It's size.

There are some finnish communities that can just barely be considered active. But if you further divided that down to cities, you'd have maybe one post a year.

[–] tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden 3 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Due to the rate of federation being limited by latency, instances have actually been re-locating to mostly Europe, so they can more easily keep up with each other.

Any examples for that? Latency causing instances not being able to keep up with federation is new to me.

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)
[–] tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thanks! Didn't know Lemmy doesn't have something like an ingress queue

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That issue being two years, I'm not sure what the current state of things is.

But servers did move towards EU to combat the problem, and haven't moved back for what I know.

Issue was fixed several months ago, but yeah it was a problem for quite a while

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