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[–] jonathan7luke@lemmy.zip 32 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I really wish that were the case. Unfortunately though, most of the people involved in US politics are not idiots, and believing that they are is playing into their strategy.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Actually, a lot of them are idiots.

Unfortunately, it doesn’t take intelligence to fuck everything up. Case in point:

Hitler Was Incompetent and Lazy—and His Nazi Government Was an Absolute Clown Show

I think the bigger problem is many of us have been conditioned to think idiots are mostly benign and nothing to really worry about, when the opposite is true. Idiocy in power is very dangerous.

The worst atrocities in history have been committed mostly when idiots were in charge.

e: if you read that article mentally substituting ‘Hitler’ with ‘Trump’, it’s uncanny how it’s nearly 100% accurate.

[–] BremboTheFourth@piefed.ca 7 points 1 week ago

Building on what LillyPip said, they're not bumbling idiots who have no idea what's going on and are just stumbling through life. They ARE, however, idiots who think they can only get ahead by putting other people down and believe themselves smart enough to reshape society; that they're guaranteed to come out on top after making it collapse.

[–] asg101@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The people that keep voting them in are the idiots.

[–] RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

If one wants a better plot, one has to convince or replace the author.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I read it as the idiots being the majority of American, both the voters who voted for them and the ones who over the years kept voting for people who were plowing, fertilizing and sowing the field where something like Trumpist would grow (you know, undermining Rule Of Law, helping the few pillage the things of the many, completely destroying social mobility in America and so on).

Trump's a clown but he's not stupid (not especially smart, either, but still smart enough to say whatever it takes and play that dumb-person's-idead-of-a-smart-person character to manipulate simpletons) and his handlers are most definitely not stupid.

[–] commiunism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yup, the things happening nowadays in US and the World as a whole are just a culmination of previous decades, like policies introduced during that time and shift in material conditions such as how much profit do companies make and in turn the purchasing power of workers, it's not a silly little accident. Though of course, it's politically beneficial to pretend otherwise, in a sense of "these guys are stupid and look where they've taken things, vote for the previous guys instead to return to the previous sane status quo!!".

Like just look at Trump and discourse surrounding him - the guy is a bastard don't get me wrong, but a lot of the most-public most-hated policies of his such as ICE raids and the "alligator camps" were first introduced by Obama and Biden respectively, and even used much more in terms of how many people they affected. Of course, the media didn't really report on it that much as they do today.

ICE might have formed under previous presudents but the secret police/gestapo tactics are fairly new for them.