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The article I read said he had a bag stuck then went to rappel down to it to unstick the bag but his rope didn't reach all the way to the bag and he just rappelled off the end of his line on his way to the bag
Always put a safety knot at the end of the rope… 😢
This reminds me of the time I saw a video of the guy in the indoor climbing gym, the guy forgot to put on the safety harness climbed to the top and just jumped, muscle memory he assumed he had the harness attached, but he hit the ground which was fatal
I will never understand the appeal of such dangerous hobbies.
Roller coasters are pretty thrilling and dont come with the risk of death (typically).
I like being alive more than I need some thrills.
Climbing is fun
He was using a rope. I imagine the risk of death while climbing with a rope is outweighed by the health benefits of leading an active life style.
Besides, I'm sure he loved doing it. Sometimes you have to take risks in life for the things you love.
Yeah but he died. The health benefits were explicitly NOT outweighed because he's fucking dead!
Good health and love aren't worth much when you cease to exist.
Also, his mom gotta bury her son. She thought he was gonna go out, live his life, do stuff. Now when his birthday comes, she will cry. She gets to throw all his stuff away or box it up and save it because shes too heartbroken to get rid of it.
Have you ever got in a car to go somewhere to do something fun? You can die doing that too, but millions (billions?) of people drive every day.
Eating an apple is healthy too unless you choke on it. Accidents can happen doing healthy things.
Cars are a mode of transportation, its a tool that gets us somewhere. Apples are nourishment, we literally need to eat to live.
Nobody needs to climb mountains to live.
Eh... I'm no actuary, but I can tell you with 100% certainty that I will not die in a rock climbing accident.
Honestly, it could be some kind of hormonal imbalance.
I don't know about that, but the extra risky stuff is somewhat correlated with depression. Partially because they're okay with dying, partially because the extreme focus takes their mind off the depression.
This article has a couple paragraphs on it: https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/climbing/austin-howell-fallen-soloist/
No. It really isn't. This was not free solo, it's not super dangerous. On average.
I have a feeling that it's more lethal then other hobbies per Capita.
But that's just anecdotal of course. I'd be really curious to know what the actual data.
That said, it can be argued that it's definitely a hobby that's perceived to be much more dangerous.
People don't choose their hobbies based solely on risk. I love riding road bikes. There is a (small!) risk of death or serious injury in that sport too. But I love doing it and it's one of the most fun things on earth for me. If I died and it was possible to ask me afterwards if I'd still do it, I might say no. But you don't get to make these decisions retrospectively and so it's worth the risk to me.
I don't know much about solo lead climbing, but it seems sketchier than I'm comfortable with. Had he done conventional lead climbing the belayer would have either avoided that problem entirely or sorted it out for him.
Also, climbing is pretty safe when proper precautions are taken. A lot of people seem to be a little laissez-faire about details like stopper knots, though. This guy was either missing one, or used one which was too small for his combination of rope thickness and belay/rappel device.
Anecdotal, but as a newbie climber I once went out with some friends who climb a lot outdoors, so I trusted them to know what they were doing. When it was time to rappel they attempted to use a figure 8 as a stopper knot, which naturally untied itself instantly. Clearly they didn't usually use stopper knots when rappelling, because if they did they'd know the proper knot.
I totally have a hormone imbalance, but if being normal means wanting to do dangerous stuff, I will happily remain imbalanced.
I'm just assuming, from what little I know of in the subject at least, that something involving adrenaline and dopamine must be involved.
Evolutionarily, that would have been useful to keep in as a feature I imagine. But in modern times, I guess it manifests as rock climbing or tight spelunking.
Just imagining this is making my palms sweat.