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[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I'll pose an interesting question:

is it more important to maintain your personal morality, or potentially break it to protect people in imminent danger?

[–] Tonava@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's a good question and I personally love discussions about morality. Still, I'd like to raise up another angle that seems to be where OP has started this thread: How do the people in the imminent danger feel? It's easy to talk about morality, but in the actual human level the people being affected right now don't really get the luxyry to view it that way, they just are in imminent danger.

When you are in a group that stands in the lowest levels of the ladder (immigrant, disabled, us transfolks etc.), it is very much personal. We're the ones who will be always taken first when the fascists get in power, while others can still have a debate about it

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

My personal feeling on the matter is that if someone is in imminent danger of death, and did no action by which to bring it about, they are justified in very nearly any action to extricate themselves from that situation. Morally speaking. So for the trans people or immigrants who have not upset the social fabric could murder anyone who comes for them and I would just smile. Similarly, anyone would be justified in doing so on their behalf.

All Oppressors Must Die

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world -3 points 4 days ago

It depends on your personal morality. For example, if your personal morality is that the symbolism of a vote is worth any number of murdered minorities, I'm gonna go ahead and say that maintaining that personal morality at the expense of literal millions of people is not just bad, but fucking horrific, and not much better than the literal Nazis they're enabling.