When I tried it in the past, I kinda didn't take it seriously because everything was confined to its instance, but now, there's full-featured global search and proper federation everywhere? Wow, I thought I heard there were some technical obstacles making it very unlikely, but now it's just there and works great! I asked ChatGPT and it says this feature was added 5 years ago! Really? I'm not sure how I didn't notice this sooner. Was it really there for so long? With flairs showing original instance where video comes from and everything?

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[–] Slotos@feddit.nl 33 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Googling at least until fairly recently meant „I consulted an index of Internet”. It is a means to get to the bit of information.

Asking ChatGPT is like asking a well-behaved parrot in the library and believing every word it says instead of reading the actual book the librarian would point you towards.

[–] moonlight@fedia.io 5 points 4 days ago

Well now it's as if half of the books in the library are written by the parrot. The librarian doesn't know the difference, and keeps trying to make you speak with the parrot anyway.

[+] hisao@ani.social -17 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I use it instead of search most of the time nowadays. Why? Because it does proceed to google it for me, parse search results, read the pages behind those links, summarize everything from there, present it to me in short condensed form and also provide the links where it got the info from. This feature been here for a while.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 13 points 4 days ago

And it still gets shit wrong.

[+] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone -6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

It's all good, Lemmy users are strongly anti-ai and are genuinely learning right now that chatgpt, mistral, perplexity etc can search the web

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Let's just keep adding more and more layers like a game of telephone!

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What do you mean?

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Go ask chatGPT

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I don't use ChatGPT, I use LM Studio which runs Local LLMs (it's like AI you can run locally on your PC, I have solar and a solar battery so this means there's no co2 emissions from my queries, I primarily use this for coding questions and practice, translations from Russian/Ukrainian/French, practising french, etc), then I use mistral AI second (french based), then third perplexity (american)

I also use Ecosia.org for searches as well

I asked mistralai/mistral-small-3.2 to elaborate on what you said, Is this what you meant?

The phrase "Let’s just keep adding more and more layers like a game of telephone!" is a metaphorical way of expressing skepticism or concern about the accuracy and reliability of information as it gets passed through multiple layers of interpretation, especially when involving AI systems.

Here's what it likely means in this context:

Game of Telephone Analogy: In the classic "game of telephone" (or "Chinese whispers"), a message is whispered from one person to another in a line, and by the time it reaches the end, the original message is often distorted or completely changed due to mishearing, misinterpretation, or intentional alteration. The user is suggesting that relying on AI systems to search, summarize, or interpret web content might introduce similar layers of potential inaccuracies or biases.
Layers of Interpretation: The "layers" could refer to the steps involved in using an AI system to access and summarize information:
- The original web content (first layer).
- The AI's interpretation or summarization of that content (second layer).
- Any further human interpretation or sharing of the AI's output (additional layers).
Concerns About Accuracy: The user might be implying that each additional "layer" (especially when involving AI) could introduce errors, biases, or misinterpretations, much like how a message gets distorted in the game of telephone.
Hostility Toward AI: Given the context you provided (Lemmy users being "strongly anti-AI"), this comment likely reflects a broader distrust of AI's ability to accurately and reliably convey information without introducing new problems.

In essence, the user is cautioning against blindly trusting AI systems to handle information retrieval and summarization, suggesting that doing so could lead to a breakdown in accuracy or meaning, similar to how a message degrades in a game of telephone.

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[–] hisao@ani.social 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

LM Studio looks cool, but I wonder, why their GUI app isn't open-source? Also their site has careers section, where do they get money to operate like that? Couldn't find anything about their monetization model.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 2 points 3 days ago

I saw recently they are preparing for this

https://lmstudio.ai/blog/free-for-work

Commercial Plans

LM Studio is a conduit for open source models and AI software. It's meant to be the first place you go to try new models, and a place where you can do professional grade work over months and years. In addition to the app, we're also shipping the LM Studio SDK and recently the Hub. The LM Studio Hub is where you can share your LM Studio "stuff": things you create within the app or with the SDK.

Putting all these things together, companies often have a need for fine-grained control over the models (and recently MCPs) their users can run, or require access control capabilities for various artifacts (presets, configurations, etc.) shared within the team.

Later this week, we will introduce a way to create a public Hub organization for your team, and use it with LM Studio at work (or school, or anywhere) for free. For companies that require more advanced features like SSO, model / MCP gating, and private collaboration: we are offering an Enterprise plan. A growing list of Fortune 500 companies, universities, and global organizations are already using LM Studio for Enterprise. If this sounds like something you need, contact us to get started.

In line with reducing friction for using LM Studio at work, we will also be introducing a simple self-serve Teams plan later this month that enables sharing various artifacts privately within your team. Sign up to be notified when it becomes available.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don’t use ChatGPT

Then why are you defending it? Is it necessary for every complaint about AI to have a wall of text clarifying that when we are complaining about extremely common issues with AI that is being forced on everyone that we are using shorthand for those specific issues for those AI implementations based on the context of what is currently being discussed?

In this case I am specifically complaining about ChatGPT and similar implementations. Kind of like when I complain about IPA beers I'm not complaining about every single beer that has ever been made.

Yes, the summary is right but also extremely verbose and redundant. Like the first or very last sentence covered everything. Like how many times does it need to repeat the same thing over and over again?

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 0 points 3 days ago

Then why are you defending it?

I'm not defending it, you were just way off base about it and then decided to double down, who's the AI now? 😉

ChatGPT steals many of the features from other LLM's and websites, bit like how Microsoft and Apple and Linux all copy and steal from each other

Yes, the summary is right

Great! Turns out AI doesn't hallucinate everything, it might actually be useful! 🤣

And if that's the case then you need not worry! If you are worried about the accuracy of a statement you can click on the links provided.

This allows you to do 2 things:

on things you are looking for an approximation of you get immediate results (Benefit of using AI)
if you would like to look further into the results you can click on the links like a regular search engine (benefit of integrated search results)

Like how many times does it need to repeat the same thing over and over again?

Because I want it to be and I like it this way :) if you prefer all responses to be more brief you can change it using the system prompt:

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I asked it to say the same thing but to be brief:

The phrase suggests skepticism about AI's ability to accurately summarize web content without introducing errors or distortions, likening the process to a "game of telephone" where information gets garbled as it passes through multiple layers (e.g., original source → AI interpretation → human sharing). The user is implying that relying on AI for this could lead to misinformation.

The cool thing is that no search engine can assist in such a personalised way like this

This is cool as heck:

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Anyway thanks for your time, time to sleep

[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

We aren't any a. I. We just ain't lemmings.

I use a I as an inspiration. That's all it is. A fancy fucking writing prompt.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone -1 points 3 days ago

You use AI for writing prompts? That's pretty cool, a lot of people use AI for writing prompts, a lot of writers say it's great for getting rid of writers block